I once likened our common experience to being gobbled up by Mormonism and crapped out the back end. You're like, "What just happened, and who am I?" I pried TSCC out of the death grip I held on it by pulling off one finger at a time. Surely it had to have some socially redeeming value. Alas, it was not to be. Not only is TSCC 100% bullshit, it's counterproductive, reactionary bullshi
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I might be an atheist. I don't know because of all these different kinds atheism. It's like "I can't define the thing I don't believe in, but whatever it is, I don't believe in it". "A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." -- Willy Wonka
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I'm posting this for recovering Mormons who know TSCC is bogus but can't ignore their memories of the "warm and fuzzy" part. You still need to reconcile the supernatural with reality, so... Dr Amit Goswami, a former quantum physics professor, explains why consciousness is the ground state of reality. He explains why the upward causality of the material philosophy to produce life is p
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This is a really good podcast if you want to understand JD's worldview and the problems of TSCC. The problem with Mormonism is that there's no progression. The power structure in TSCC prevents any real deviation from core tenets that Joseph made up whole cloth in the 19th century. Members are taught nothing, really, about higher consciousness and its role in physical reality other than simplis
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"... but I believe that God is separated from us by time and space" No, she's not. It's just that time, space and consciousness are poorly understood. At least space is starting to be understood better. Schroeder makes a distinction between space and nothingness because they are completely different. In my opinion, time is an artifact of consciousness. Consciousness as we know
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This is a Hindu tradition. Your kundalini builds up with abstinence, but you have to channel your mojo instead of blocking it as Mormonism teaches you to do. What Mormon tradition does is try to block it (very 19th century), which means that any normal guy will eventually masturbate and then have a guilt complex about it.
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Welcome to your nightmare, Alice. I think God literally is love.
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I've heard anecdotes of priesthood blessings producing impressive results. But I think it's like Dumbo's feather, where Dumbo thinks it's a magic feather that makes him fly. You can work up intense emotional thought when you have faith. The space torsion generated by such thought has been measured by instruments.
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If there's a spiritual answer, temple work is the equivalent of Buddhist ancestor worship. Any activity would do. You could play board games and roll the dice for your dead ancestors, and it would have the same effect.
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"our math isn't very sophisticated when we just make up a 96% fudge factor" It's not the math, it's the model. Big Physics (CERN etc) bangs protons together like King Arthur's lackey banging together two coconut shells and analyses the fragments to test their model. So much is invested in the model that alternative models are seen as a threat. There are other cosmologies based on
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It must be the passive aggressive Mormon in John, which I'm willing to overlook because Mormonism created that monster. I think most of us here are hoping that TSCC gets a good beat-down from all of this. It's not so much a revenge fantasy as it is a desire for justice.
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I take it you're new to this. Yes, it's always a unanimous vote and the vote is by a public raise of hands. Mormons are expected to support their leaders so I've never seen a hand go up for "those opposed?". This is why TSCC has crony leadership from top to bottom. Is that bad? Considering the state of TSCC today, it's very bad.
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According to Uvitor Shipov, there are 10 dimensions. Resonances and torsion within these dimensions give rise to physical matter as well as consciousness and spirit. Is there a God? Let's consider the paradox of fireproof bibles. There are many instances of house fires where the family bible miraculously survives without so much as the cover being scorched. Yet the bible is a collection of myt
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His science vs their feeling. When you cast pearls before swine and the swine gang up on you, what can you do? Throw more pearls at them?
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In a way, TSCC is Joseph Smith writ large. Or P. T. Barnum. Watch that elephant poo.
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According to mediums who see spirits, children hang out with their mommies soon after conception. Another theory is that human consciousness enters the brain with a surge of DMT produced at 7 weeks. Some eastern cultures believe in the 7 week thing independently of the DMT brain function. BTW, I wonder if mothers feel something change at the 7 week point. Psychological studies prove that pr
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Mormons have bishops, not pastors. Probably the bishopric (bishop and his counselors) and the stake presidents. I'm sure John Dehlin can take care of himself. He's extremely strong minded and has many encouraging supporters. And he knows he's right.
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You could be honest and say if you accept a calling you really don't want, you'll be passive aggressive about it and do a crappy job.
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A common thing you hear from Mormons is "I can't tell you, it's sacred". They'll start telling you a personal experience or spiritual anecdote, then say that and leave you hanging. I think what happens is that they realize how crazy they sound.
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One of the first tasks to do when leaving Mormonism is to accept that there's no such thing as Black and White. The BoM is mostly brown. And moist and steamy and emits a bouquet only a fly would find appetizing.
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The "everyone lies and everyone masturbates" axiom can be useful. AFAIK, 90% or non-Mos and 50% of LDS guys masturbate that means: 50% of LDS are liars. 10% of general population are liars.
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Google Ramm Dass and buy a book or two, such as "Be Here Now" or "Polishing the Mirror". Also, for someone your age, the book "Indie Spiritualist" by Chris Grosso would be good to read. I wish I had read it way back when. I think everyone's early 20s sucks. The right philosophy helps immensely. Mormonism is the wrong philosophy. Friends who aren't your friends (te
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With an inquisitor name like King, I hope John manages to work a "Why can't we just get along?" in there somewhere.
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From Monty Python's "Life of Brian" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA
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My dad called that color "Sh!t Brenda".
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Do I hear "Battling Banjos" playing in the background?
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I think Steve Benson should draw JD carrying a cross. Lots of creative ways to go with that, with the pool of characters to draw from. There's the Romans, the waterboy, the helper dude, the crowd, etc.
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Not only that, but it's the high value people that are leaving. Professionals, smart people and critical thinkers. The shakers and movers of tomorrow. They will spread the word. But think of it this way. McDonalds changed because of bad PR. They now offer salads and healthy stuff in addition to the usual junk food. Maybe TSCC will McDonaldize. And TBMs will become McMormons. But people like t
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People who have NDEs describe anything but Kolob. As for physics, you might as well ask pre-Newtonian physics to explain the theory of relativity.
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Oh yeah. Kolob. Never mind.
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