Well, at least they're being true to Mormon tradition. Joseph was intellectually lazy. He'd much rather spin a tale to get people eating out of his hand. Power is amazingly dis-empowering. Their ability to do their jobs depends on not being informed. Fortunately, today's generation doesn't seem to automatically honor authority with no actual wisdom behind it.
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I'd respond, but it's hard to type with these big ape fingers.
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Here's one of those branches: old hippies living in the wilderness. Joseph would love it. http://www.peyoteway.org/
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Thug religions are the problem. Although Joseph has plenty of audacity to point out, much of it either died with him or continued with fringe sects. The LDS church of today is a product of Brigham Young (who probably made his bones before MMM) and continues in browbeating patriarchal thuggery to this day.
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There are other answers depending how open minded you are. It's good to be open minded, but not so open minded the wind whistles through your ears. Amit Goswami is one of my favorite quantum theorists. He likes to explain physics in a poetic, metaphysical way to shed light on the deeper aspects of reality and mind. Rupert Sheldrake, the infamous biologist, promotes a theory of morphic resonanc
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As aggravating as it is to deal with people who refuse to entertain reality, in a previous age many of us would have been disemboweled or burned at the stake for heresy. Just to keep things in perspective. The freedom to say something and not get killed for saying it is a fairly recent social innovation.
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I'd tell you why, but the spirit constraineth me that I should not.
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Well, credulity is a prerequisite for being a Mormon these days.
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I tend to get poetic when I'm wasted. As big an influence this religion had in my life, I can put a positive spin on it. What they did to me is about them. How I react to it is about me. Am I reacting? No, I'm observing. There's nothing wrong with playing the fool on the way to wisdom. The 15 are the 15, what can you do? They never imagined the Internet would be the 11th commandment: Thou s
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I turned 25 in TSCC doing church without parole. No one could turn me straight but mama tried. Oh, well. They don't care about what I think. I think I'll just stay here and drink.
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Was there ever a formal apology for Crooked River? This would be a great PR opportunity to soften the church's image. All those responsible are dead, so a nice "Sorry about that, Chief" wouldn't cost anything and most people would warm up to the church finally owning up to something. Maybe Dallin H "You will respect my authoritah" Oaks could be the one to offer the offic
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"In 1980, an entire Nivaclé native tribe of 200 people converted to the gospel when missionaries told them the story of the Savior visiting the Americas. The leader of the tribe recognized the story as one passed down from their ancestors and knew he was hearing restored truths." Those stories are common among some North American tribes. At least, the Hopi who await the return of Pa
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Can you find a hat and a smooth river rock? You could have a lot of fun at church showing how Joseph did the BoM "translation". And they might not be so keen on having you back.
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It's highly doubtful that today's church leaders kill their enemies outright. That's a great improvement. They don't even go very far to discredit them. They pretty much label them apostate (or wicked) and turn their backs. We live in a fascinating time when Joseph's story is unraveling at breakneck speed. I can hardly wait to see what happens next in this freak show.
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More like Major Tom, and I like reading your posts. We all have some degree of Mormon programming that won't completely go away. There's still a diseased notion that there's some virtue in being right. Being right is a blessing, not a virtue, and not something you can use to lord over people. Your truth is your truth. It's non-transferable. Or so says ground control.
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It appears that emotionally speaking, you are the parent in this situation and you have to deal with the children from a position of powerlessness. You really have to finesse this thing, but I think you can do it. All this fuss over an F-bomb or two? It sounds like you're well suited to life at sea.
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Uh huh. That's all it is, attachment. If you want to go to your ancestral home, why not go live with monkeys in the rainforest? Too far back? The best thing you can do is break loose from the attachment. Don't worry about next year. Plan for it, sure, but don't waste time and energy on problems that don't yet exist and more likely than not will never exist.
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If they can forgive Joe for everything he did, they can extend ten times that to their fellow saints. Which should just about cover everything under the sun.
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Righteousness Here's to hapless prophet Joe; made a church and made it go. Joseph the consummate knave ran his venture to the grave. Ship of fools with captains erring tossed about on waves uncaring. Waiting for the holy day of vindication, so they say. See the fruits of righteousness. All you get's a righteous mess. Captains open up your eyes. No deception, no more lies. Open up your he
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It seems God is a little slow in bringing down this craven multi-generational criminal syndicate. They need to open their books or lose tax exempt status.
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No. Although the thought that some women are turned on by a picture of Elder Bednar kinda freaks me out.
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"Lab experiments confirm that offering counter-evidence only strengthens someone’s conviction. “In as little as 30 minutes, you can see a bounce-back effect where people are even more likely to believe the statement is true,” says Newman." "Lewandowsky explains that our beliefs are embedded in our “mental models” of the way the world works; each idea is interlinked wit
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That's what did it for you? At least you're out. For me, I just can't abide the facts of the matter. The hoaxes have been unmasked and the history revealed in all of its mind blowing detail.
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Pardon me while I pick my jaw up off the floor.
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No more tithing. So, no more malls and bulletproof Audis?
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That was awful. One more time, with feelin'.
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Besides the obvious two at Carthage. Since he did everything else, why not murder too?
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So the church gets all the benefits of a corporation but without the normal legal responsibilities. Like, you know, labor laws.
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There is none to molest or make afraid.
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You've just scratched the surface. Just wait until you get into the facts of the BoM. All the science and all the math proves that it's a 19th century hoax. There were no golden plates. In fact the church freely admits in an essay that Joe used a rock in a hat, not the plates, in an occult practice called scrying. But he couldn't even do that right because there is no evidence of anything outside
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