Last evening, we received a knock at the front door. I caught the tale end of the door-way conversation as my 18 year old daughter was saying, "My mom isn't home, and I don't think she is LDS anymore."

Turns out it was my wife's visiting teachers, who popped in for a surprise visit, i.e. no appointment, etc. They and the mishes continue to come once a month like this.

Would I be out of line if I greeted a Mormon at my front door with signs, sayings, and tokens of the temple?

For instance, would I be wrong to give the 1st and 2nd handshakes of the Aaronic priesthood or even the sign of the nail?

Would I be silly to say, "Hey guys, Pay Lay Ale to you (esp on St Pat's day)?

Would it be out of line to say when they identify me as, Brother Brown, to respond by saying, "I am not brother brown to you (and in a dramatic voice yell) - PLEASE CALL CALEB WHICH IS MY TEMPLE NAME?"

Would I be out of line to quickly put on my temple clothes including the green apron, bakers hat, and white robe - and then answer the door by saying "What is wanted?"

Am I wrong? Do they deserve it?

One problem: "Pay lay ale" is no longer used in the temple. Not only are young missionaries totally unfamiliar with it, they would be able to deny that the phrase was ever part of the endowment. Older people who remember it also deny that it was ever part of the ceremony. Ask any active Mormon who got their endowment before 1990.

To answer the other question, it may or may not be deserved, but they should be able to take it. As representatives of the Mormon church, they should be strong and thick-skinned enough to fend off any prank comment. If they drop by unannounced, you would have every right to prank them just as they prank you by dropping by. Or you could just tell them to never come by again without making an appointment first.

Crack the door just an inch, then put in your left hand while asking "What is wanted?"

and no, you're not out of line.

If you have requested "Do not contact" and they still persist on bothering you. It is open season on them. I highly suggest inviting them in and seating them, offering them a coffee or tea and then asking to be excused for a few moments.

Go and change into the full white temple gear and come back with a straight face (white shirt, tie, etc if you have them). If they comment on the get-up pretend you don't know what they are talking about and change the topic. See how long before they make their escape.

Return and report.

You wouldn't be out of the line. You probably wouldn't be the only person who was a jerk to them that day either.

I don't think you would feel great about yourself afterwards. Just don't answer the door. That's what most people do.

That's why Mormons return year after year because no one has the guts to tell them to leave and never return. "What most people do" is usually the worst excuse for doing or not doing anything.

Well, halleluyah! I get to be helpful and useful because as an old fart, I can tell you for sure that Pay Lay Ale! was alive and well when I went to the temple-club way back in l965.

Those words along with all the other voodoo that went on in the ole boys club was weird, childlike, and silly to me. PayLayAle! had to be said three times, placing your arms first straight up above your head, then moving them down to the middle of your body, say waist high, and finishing by pointing them to the floor.

I felt like I was in a tree club of ten year olds with these words as well as the silly, OBNOXIOUS hand shakes and on it goes.

So, you've got my vote to have a little fun with this ridiculous childish ritual.

Hell yes!

Invite them in and let them know in certain terms you do not believe in the church.
And why you do not believe in the church.

Do this and the word gets back to the Bishopric and Ward Correlation Council very quickly that they should move on.

I've never requested Do Not Contact as that leaves them thinking there is still hope for my return.

I invite them in and remove all hope. I haven't had a visit in 8 years.

With a heading in LARGE TYPE saying:

It is RUDE to show up without a CONFIRMED appointment.


Mountain Meadows Massacre
http://www.lds.org/topics/mountain-meadows-massacre

Book of Mormon and DNA Studies
https://www.lds.org/topics/book-of-mormon-and-dna-studies

Spalding Manuscript
http://www.lds.org/topics/spaulding-manuscript

First Vision Accounts
http://www.lds.org/topics/first-vision-accounts

Are Mormons Christian?
http://www.lds.org/topics/christians

Book of Mormon Translation
http://www.lds.org/topics/book-of-mormon-translation

Race and the Priesthood
http://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood

Plural Marriage and Families in Early Utah
http://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-and-families-in-early-utah

Plural Marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints?lang=eng

Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo
https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joseph_Smith%27s_wives
Sealed to wife, Emma, 28 May 1843


The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage
https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng

Becoming Like God
https://www.lds.org/topics/becoming-like-god?lang=eng

Book of Abraham
https://www.lds.org/topics/translation-and-historicity-of-the-book-of-abraham?lang=eng

So they should stop coming to your house. Mock as you see fit is my opinion.

My style would be to tell them to go away and never return in a firm voice, then close the door after a curt goodbye.

I used to ask them if they could keep a secret. When they said "Yes" then I would say "So can I." Then I slammed the door in their faces.

It really pissed them off. And they continued to yell and scream through the door, but eventually gave up. It has worked well because they haven't come by in a long time.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2016 06:25PM by messygoop.

Mormons have a hard time accepting, when you are very clear, that you not longer are Mormon, or believe.

Never mind when you have never been clear, and are wishy washy about it.

That is why resignation is helpful. You are no longer a member

Mock away. Nothing out of line in exposing evil.

RB

AnonIrishAmerican Wrote:
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>
> Would I be out of line to quickly put on my temple
> clothes including the green apron, bakers hat,
> and white robe - and then answer the door by
> saying "What is wanted?"
>
> Am I wrong? Do they deserve it?


PLEASE DO THIS. :)

Just ask the which wife.

Then look one up and down and say "we are looking for wife number 4 are you interested?"

It is your door. As long as you don't violate any laws, you may do as you please.

Years ago, my father ran out onto the porch one day in his underwear yelling "I am the Lord thy God, thall shalt not have strange Gods before me," and some other such nonsense.

We thought he had finally completely lost it. He comes in laughing to himself about the 2 Jehovah's witnesses that he had scared off the porch and were now scurrying down the street to get away from our house.

I'd say since you violated my boundaries I'll violate yours and show them the centerfold from a Hustler magazine. But if you live in Utah you probably can only find underwear adds to show them.

But then it may not even phase them since they all have a life threatening pornography addiction anyway.

It seems that to be a member in good standing any porn curiosity that you may have has to become a full blown addiction in order to prove that the GA's are right.

Personally, I'd say mocking mormon "beliefs" (or others) is never out of line.
But if you go after the poor ignorant missionaries *personally,* and mock THEM, then you're not doing so well.

Just my take :)