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Posted by: rogermartim ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 02:10PM

Are there shorter phrases for "And it came to pass..." in other languages that would save space and paper in their Book of Mormon?

In Portuguese it's "Naqueles dias..." ("In those days...").

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Posted by: imaworkinonit ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 02:40PM


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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 02:56PM

"Et il arriva" in French. Shorter than,
"And it came to pass," but no clearer :)

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Posted by: justarelative ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 03:05PM

"And it came to pass"

Why try to shorten that phrase? Why not just drop it entirely? Those words are completely superfluous!

I can not for the life of me remember who did it, but someone put a lot of effort into matching up words and phrases in the BoM against other books to demonstrate either plagiarism or influence or both.

One of the interesting statistics they came up with was that the BoM uses the phrase "and it came to pass" about ten times more frequently than any other book.

And it came to pass that the author of this post had completed his task,

JAR

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Posted by: ultra ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 03:08PM

next they...

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Posted by: fossilman ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 03:11PM

And then

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 04:45PM

und dann

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Posted by: jiminycricket ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 03:18PM

And it came to pass = 19 characters with spaces

And I made it up = 16 characters with spaces (signed, Joe & co.)

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Posted by: presleynfactsrock ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 04:05PM

Next.....

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Posted by: David A ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 04:26PM

I think I heard that many instances of this phrase were actually removed at an early stage. Can anyone confirm this?

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Posted by: csuprovograd ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 04:40PM

How come they always passed? Was Norm Chow coaching? They should come to rush once in a while.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2015 04:41PM by csuprovograd.

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Posted by: RPackham ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 05:40PM

One of the most frequent criticisms of the language of the Book of Mormon is the frequent use of the phrase "And it came to pass..." That may well be a valid criticism of the literary style of the supposed translation, but that criticism overlooks the fact that the very same phrase occurs quite frequently in the King James translation of the Bible, over 500 times in the Hebrew Old Testament and over 70 times in the Greek New Testament. The phrase in the New Testament is a translation of the one Greek word 'egeneto' meaning "it happened." In the Old Testament it translates a Hebre word of four characters, WYHY, pronounced 'weyehi' meaning "and it happened." It is not unreasonable to assume that "Reformed Egyptian" might also have had such a single short word.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2015 05:41PM by RPackham.

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Posted by: jerry64 ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 06:01PM

I can't think of what to write next so I'll start with it came to pass...

There are more than 1200 appearances of it.
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/search?lang=eng&query=%22came+to+pass%22&x=0&y=0



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Posted by: ette ( )
Date: January 22, 2015 05:51PM

In the old swedish BOM they just put a * to represent every single "and it came to pass". The whole book was less burdensome without that redundancy.

Then tscc came out with a new version that replaced all the *s with "Och det begav sig". Typical for a brain-dead cult.

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