is that we have so many people like this who think they have something important to say, like somehow all of us who have left the church just didn't study hard enough, try hard enough, blah, blah, blah. Nothing new here.
It isn't like we didn't have GAs and all sorts of other leaders who were preaching at us all the time, writing things for us to read, and now we have all the "common Mormons" thinking they have NEWS for us.
God has your church been restored? I've never understood what exactly qualifies mormons to say they have a restored church? Any protestant can spout off the same claim? Mormon's have lost so many of the original doctrines that were once supposedly restored. Just listen to the Keven Kraut youtube videos It's very obvious that something's gone wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvSYj2pE7NI
Mormons need to clarify restored church and say they have "restored priesthood" then there might be an argument. They might have a leg to stand on?
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I haven't finished his list yet, but I have yet to find one that would lead anyone to Mormonism. Number one might convince people that Christianity collectively is not true, number two might convince people that the BoM is not true AND that current leaders are false prophets, #3: who cares what the Bible doesn't say?...the Bible AND BoM contradict Mormon doctrine, etc... I could go on and on. I hope this guy doesn't drive himself mad.
"13. Why would Christ be resurrected with his actual body if he was only just a manifestation of the Father?"
Mormons have absolutely no understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity. They constantly shoot down straw men and think they have refuted something. I think it comes from the same source that allows them to be so disrespectful of boundaries. Since THEIR doctrine is TRUE(tm) they have no need to actually understand anyone else's.
I so much agree. How can anyone know something is true without looking at the alternatives, understanding other points of view. It's reckless for parents to teach their kids to spout off "I know da chuch is twuuuu." They really need to look at other perspectives and then make up their mind what works for them.
Most other protestants don't look at their church as true but look at their spiritual awakening with jesus as true. They look at the bible as the ultimate authority on everything. Almost as God almighty itself. (protestants are a little off in the head as well if you ask me...)
Then he says: "The Bible says “He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.” (Prov 18:13)
Hmmmm...seems to me that TBM's & apologists start with the conclusion that the church is "True" so they've made their minds to answereth a matter before they heareth it up no matter what is presented to them.
Anyway, answering a few of these...
1. There are a bunch of LDS denominations...what's up with THAT?
2. Bible contradictions? Take a look at the Mormon church stuff!
3. Yeah, I think the Bible says some thing about that, because Jesus is, like, you know, the culmination of prophecy.
4. Joseph Smith *added* a bunch of stuff to the Bible that wasn't originally there to consider whether to leave it out or not (about himself, oddly enough), so your point is...?
5. Yes. I was a barista at Kolobucks, myself.
6. Well, it could be a left over from pre-jewish polytheism (and not Mormon gods, but rock, wind, fire, moon gods), the royal "we", or the Holy Trinity.
It goes downhill from there....if someone looks at this, as Cold-Dodger pointed out, they would wonder about all those GODS!
Was it wrong for Joseph Smith to claim his follower's wives as his own? Was it wrong for Brigham Young to have sex with his follower's wives, like Zina Huntington Jacobs, with whom he fathered at least one child?