http://www.salon.com/2014/07/21/ken_ham_wants_to_end_the_u_s_space_program_because_aliens_can’t_have_salvation/

Despite the humor [proud daughter of an aerospace design engineer here], this is a really good question.

If/"when" intelligent aliens are discovered (or, alternatively, they "discover" us!!! :D ), how will each of the major religions or philosophical schools endeavor to include, or to exclude, those alien lifeforms from their teachings?

Well, I see lots of possibilities. I think that the more liberal religions will welcome space alien members. The more conservative religions will exclude them all unless they turn out to already have an identical bible. But even then, the earth fundamentalists will go wild getting laws passed to prevent humans from having sex with, or marrying, the aliens. Even if it's clearly impossible for humans and aliens to "interact",

If the aliens are really really wealthy, the Mormon church will have a revelation that these are the true ancestors of the Native Americans and Polynesians, and will court them in every possible way. Since the Mormons already sort of have a whole thing about other peoples on other planets, this shouldn't be a big leap for them. It should easily become faith promoting. Someone will discover that the aliens called their home star a word which, if it could be pronounced by earthlings, has one sound that is also found in "Kolob" --- and this will be hailed as the greatest proof yet of that Joseph is a true profit.

Yes, Hammy, space is against god. Reality slants rational.

The more things I read, the more I think people are linking to articles from 'The Onion.'

Anyway, if you want more nut-burger-y, may I suggest:

https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2014/07/20/well-find-a-new-earth-within-20-years/

"according to Ham, who also runs the Creation Museum in Kentucky, there’s no point in spending money on finding extraterrestrial life for a couple of reasons: First, the search is a deliberate rebuking of God, and second because aliens are already damned to hell."

This guy seriously needs to be probed.

On second thought, it seems as if he already has.



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The space aliens will be from kolob and therefore will not need salivation.

The aliens will arrive with a sacred record of how they evolved from space matter into highly intelligent beings, engraved on plates of gold.

Then they will start trying to convert the people of the earth based on the truthfulness of the plates.

This will start the "conversion wars" which will sweep through the universe and destroy all life.

Nobody with a brain cares what Ken Ham says...:)

"there’s no point in spending money on finding extraterrestrial life"

I'm not so sure the primary objective of NASA is to "find extraterrestrial life" so much as it is to just explore space. If they find life, that's a bonus.

He should be going after SETI....they are trying to find extraterrestrial life.....but are funded by donations, not taxpayer money like Mr. Ham's ark exhibit was.

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This is from Ken Ham's blog, and the title he chose for this blog entry is purposefully misleading and fanciful. (Ham uses this title as a way to "logically" justify his religious beliefs, which it does not do, but this is his attempt.)

No, he used that title to say that it was just as ridiculous as articles having lead-ins similar to that of the op on this thread.

Ham is being his usual dishonest self in the blog post linked above.
HuffPost quoted another of his blog posts, and got the quote *right.* In saying they didn't, he refers to something *else* that he wrote, not to the blog post they quoted.

Like I said, nobody with a brain cares what he says.
He's not only an idiot, he's a dishonest idiot.

500 hundred years ago Ken Ham would be debating Bill Nye, with absolute biblical certainty, that the earth is flat and supported on pillars, and the sun & stars revolve around us.

Rolling my eyes right about now.

Massive obfuscation at this point.

A sphere isn't a circle, it's a sphere.
Some of us *have* checked the etymology of the Hebrew word used there and translated as "circle."
It means "circle." As in flat.

There's another word in Hebrew -- used in the bible even -- that means ball or sphere. That's not what's used there.

Not that the one word here really matters, Hebrew "cosmology" of the time is well known and understood, and it was of an "earth" as a flat disc surrounded by water and covered by 'domes' of heavens (7 of them).

http://www.crivoice.org/circle.html



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A thanks to hie and a reading assignment for notmonotloggedin ...


The following link is to a good rebuttal to Bible apologists' claims that the Hebrew word for "circle" *really* means "sphere" in many of its Biblical uses. (The quote in the subject line is from the linked article.):

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2001/PSCF9-01Schneider.html



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Another good link, thanks!

Note that the links I and lurking in posted are both *christian* refutations of the "circle means sphere" apologetic claim.
They're believers being thorough and honest, unlike the apologists who make the claim :)

Still, in s free society people can say or think whatever they choose.

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