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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 10:13AM

"Printouts and screenshots of Radkey’s latest research show that in the past five years, proxy baptisms were performed on at least 20 Holocaust victims.

They also were performed on Humphrey Bogart and Marilyn Monroe; the mother of Queen Elizabeth II; and grandparents of Kim Kardashian and Carrie Fisher and U.S. politicians Joe Biden, John McCain and Mike Pence."

So much for the four full-time people they hired to prevent Holocaust victims from being dead-dunked.

Incompetent or devious?

Hard to tell. Probably both.

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Posted by: nonmo_1 ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 10:20AM

It almost sounds like they will "forgive" you for "accidentally" baptizing a holocaust victim or the random well-known dead celebrity (Charlie Manson???), but will NOT forgive you for

Drinking coffee.
Shopping on Sunday.
Being seen in the Liquor Store.
Being seen in Starbucks..

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Posted by: Hervey Willets ( )
Date: December 22, 2017 02:13AM


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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 10:57AM

Most members don't know the loose handbook regulations and they are not enforced like the questions for getting a TR. No one oversees how these names are used and there are no consequences for members who turn in any name they happen to know or find. Commandments are the subjects of lessons and talks, but no one much cares about who turns in names or how they're used in the temple.

I think those rules are mostly there to recite to non-members who object to being implicated in mormon rites. The mormons tell them, "Oh, we wait a reasonable time after death and get permission from next of kin." A few mormons who turn in names might do this, but not most.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2017 11:16AM by Cheryl.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 11:42AM

Once again, a glaring failure of the church leaders to actually lead. First rule of leadership (I'm talking to you, Dallin, Jeffrey, Dave, Dieter and the rest): *everything* is your fault!

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 11:21AM

We don' baptize jews *wink, wink*

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Posted by: nomonomo ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 11:47AM

Of course not! They baptize "future Mormons."

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 11:23AM

Another link:

http://www.sltrib.com/religion/local/2017/12/21/researcher-mormons-are-performing-baptisms-on-holocaust-victims-donald-trump-joe-biden-and-more/

Mormons probably want to dead-dunk Holocaust victims because they feel the need for authentic martyrs rather than the wannabes like Joseph Smith...

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 11:45AM

They are so goddamn sneaky and vile.

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Posted by: nomonomo ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 11:50AM

+1

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Posted by: valiant ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 12:31PM

"The church, in a statement, acknowledged the ceremonies violated its policy and said they would be invalidated...."

Will there be posthumous excommunications to invalidate the baptisms?

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 12:39PM

valiant Wrote:
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> Will there be posthumous excommunications to
> invalidate the baptisms?

That's why they're letting teenagers do temple work now...

So many excommunications for the dead to catch up on!

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Posted by: SEcular Priest ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 04:18PM

If they can invalidate this eternal ordinance that easy what does it say about the importance of temple work?

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Posted by: MRM ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 03:39PM

Seriously!

They can't add a line to the program to search a data base with the names of the Holocaust victims?

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 04:56PM

MRM Wrote:
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> Seriously!
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> They can't add a line to the program to search a
> data base with the names of the Holocaust victims?

After the last big public shaming regarding them dead-dunking Holocaust victims, they promised to hire 4 full-time employees to make sure it doesn't happen again. And Jewish groups even supply them regular updates to lists of Holocaust victims to check against.

Yet...it keeps happening.

Clearly they simply don't *care.*

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Posted by: Babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 05:25PM

Or their IT department is inept.
Or inside every Jew is a Mormon fighting to get out.
Or the leaders are just plain stupid.

To them, this is just more persecution proving they’re right. So why should they change?

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Posted by: unbelievable2 ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 04:18PM

Interesting how they prevent children of gay parents baptism but yet they baptize Charles Manson. It's insane. They absolutely don't know what they are doing. I really hope they get sued up the wazoo and shut all the temples down.

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Posted by: Carved In Stone ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 04:24PM

Let's see.. how did that go again...?

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor his congregations, nor his free will, nor his religion, nor his atheism, nor his masturbations, neither the physical nor mental, nor his apostates, nor his tithing, nor his afterlife, no rhis baptism nor lack of baptism, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

That's the one. Big Rule #10. It's been plumped up a bit for for the simpletons having trouble with its intent. Verily easy to understand, if you ask me. Leave other people's stuff alone, whatever it is. Religious freedom and all that crap.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 05:07PM

The thing I will never understand is how blind Mormons could be to help assist the Nazis murder the Jews throughout the Holocaust only to post-humously baptize them after the war ended?

They committed murder on the one hand in the name of God.

Then they had an about-face to save souls, so they believed, only Jewish ones.

Jews have no need of Mormon salvation. They have their own.

Mormon post-humous baptisms for anyone is a forcing of will by the Mormon church upon others against their wishes. They have no right to say it's the choice of so and so to accept or reject in the afterlife.

Jews were murdered for their beliefs in this life; and many sent to their deaths by Mormons.

It's an affront to their memory and to Jews in general to continue this horrid practice including among family relatives of Mormons who happen to be Jewish.

How schizophrenic Mormonism is, is that it has baptized Adolf Hitler at the same frenzy it has Anne Frank. He represented pure evil. Then too so did those Mormons who aided and abetted the Nazis, and were Nazis themselves during WWII.

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Posted by: SEcular Priest ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 06:56PM

This is the first time I have heard of this. If this is the case, all I can say is WOW. Help kill them then do temple work for them. How crazy is this?

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 07:08PM

A historian wrote a book about it several years back that was featured at the 2015 ex-Mormon conference in Salt Lake City.

J. Reuben Clark was one of the most hateful anti-Semites during WWII. He turned his back literally and denounced Jews pleading for their lives in Nazi controlled Germany, all the way from Salt Lake City.

Mormon churches in Germany had swastikas flying from their church houses; and posted signs that banned any Jews from entering.

Mormons used genealogy to smoke out the German Jews who had converted to Christianity so they could turn it over to the Third Reich to have those converted Christians murdered.

The only known Resistance Fighter who was a Mormon was a 17 year old youth. When he was caught, he was ratted out by the Mormons in his community. Then he became excommunicated for being a resistance fighter; next he was arrested by the Nazis; and then he was executed.

https://www.amazon.com/Moroni-Swastika-Mormons-Nazi-Germany/dp/0806146680



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2017 06:25AM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 10:30PM

As Amyjo noted, he presented at the 2015 Exmormon Conference. I have a signed copy of it in my library...

https://www.amazon.com/Moroni-Swastika-Mormons-Nazi-Germany/dp/0806146680

Maybe while they're removing Holocaust victims from their postmortem baptismal records, they could posthumously excommunicate J. Ruben Clark...

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: December 22, 2017 07:15AM


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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: December 21, 2017 05:39PM

They never quit.

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Posted by: quinlansolo ( )
Date: December 22, 2017 09:21AM

i HOPE THEY SUCCEED BAPTIZING THE WHOLE DEAD PLANET.

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