https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/apnewsbreak-arizona-judge-investigated-over-sex-abuse-claim/2018/03/08/a9132674-230f-11e8-946c-9420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.f86205e44f35

http://www.pinalcountyaz.gov/Judicial/Judges/Pages/Judge-Steven-Fuller.aspx

I am assuming Mormon as he is a BYU graduate.



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"The alleged abuse occurred years ago and was reported in late September to police in the Phoenix suburb of Mesa by a lawyer for the Mormon church who said the alleged victim revealed the alleged abuse to her bishop. She spoke with investigators several weeks later, saying she was coming forward after being encouraged to do by Paul Babeu, a family friend who was the Pinal County Sheriff from 2009 through 2016."

Yep, looks like mormonism is involved.

"The woman told investigators that she first told her mother when she was around age 13 that Fuller had touched her inappropriately but that her mother told her making those kind of claims could ruin others’ lives."

Oh, yeah, mormonism is *absolutely* involved.
Another mormon parent putting the "reputation" of others over their own child. Disgusting.

Yeah, when I read that quote from the mother, my stomach turned. I wish that the victim could have talked to her dad instead... I don't think there is a father alive who would not protect their daughter. I would do jail time for assult to anyone who tried this on my sons.

chipace Wrote:
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> Yeah, when I read that quote from the mother, my
> stomach turned. I wish that the victim could have
> talked to her dad instead... I don't think there
> is a father alive who would not protect their
> daughter.

So true. Helen Kimball's dad was so protective.

As was Clarissa Decker's daddy.

And Elizabeth Fairchild's papa.

Oh, and daddy-O Alger.

And then...

Touche. Yes, there are horrible men (such as the accused). My wife would be in jail with me, also for assult. I should have said that the victim should have talked with both parents... hopefully both would not have failed her.



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> None of those fathers are alive now. I stand by my
> statement. I welcome you to give me an example of
> a living father you has failed to protect his
> daughter.

So why do fathers abuse girls? Living fathers?

Why even bother with petitioning for no more Bishop interviews if all these Bishops would do anything to protect their child(ren)?

You’re speaking Joseph Smith spin doctoring.

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> And you are pulling examples out of air when the
> parent that failed the victim was the mother. Stay
> on topic.

Her alleged abuser is a father. And a leader in Boy Scouts.

Why isn’t he like all the other living fathers, according to your definitions?

Statistically, a girl is more at risk from a father than a mother.

I have amended my posts as they were done emotionally. I have removed my gender related statements. There is no point in arguing gender inequality as there are infinite examples in either favor.
I am sorry for starting this discussion.

I have seen cases like this before. Next, the Bishop will tell everyone that the church was aware of this transgression years ago, and that the Judge repented long ago, and should just be forgiven.

The church acts as though they have the ability to forgive on behalf of both the victem and the law. They don't.

jumped out at me. I would have been put in prison, too.

The thing that really is horrible about the mother is that she ever allowed her daughter to be with this person at all, let alone ALONE. She just let the abuse go on. Sacrificed her daughter.

It should have been reported, but if she had just been protective of her daughter, it could have been stopped a long time ago.