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Posted by: JoeSmith777 ( )
Date: May 22, 2018 08:02PM

Comes to me from a friend who is active and believing. Also a Food Inspector of some kind.

Lesson on consecrating Olive Oil for blessings - and the process.

They brought out a jug of "Extra Virgin Olive Oil" and started talking about it and the process. He pointed out that what they bought was a Blend, and was not Pure Olive Oil. Was in fact a major brand that FDA apparently has been trying to nail for mislabeling. Add in California Olive Oil Council has tested it and flunked it as a blend - an the meeting went downhill from there.

Didn't help matters when he pointed out it was in a clear bottle/plastic jug - and Pure oils are generally in dark bottles to protect the oil from deleterious effects of sunlight on it.

Some didn't care. Others did not want to pay for the real deal. Some said it had to be real because the label said it was.

Suffice it to say - no consecration and no little vials filled that Sunday.

They did get into arguing that the Oil really didn't matter. This got the scriptorians into D&C & the revealed word in print.

I know he did not help when he asked 'if it doesn't matter, can I use the can of 3in1 oil from my tool kit"? (asked jokingly - sarcastic - but many took it seriously)

So - what gives in the search for the real deal and does it have to be used? Quotes from TheBrethren on it. maybe? Most likely all blown away by Brigham Young having used consecrated Olive Oil for Enemas. Would almost be worth attending with him on a Sunday if the topic was sure to come up so I could get that one in.

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The above from Mormon Discussions site.

The real questions are WHY olive oil and if it is not Pure - what does it really matter? If it is supposed to be Pure and is in Reality a blend - per LDS Leadership will it make a difference? If not - why the emphasis on Purity?

Or is it a lot like a totally unworthy child rapist baptizing someone into LDS membership - when he is found out they don't do a re-baptism. So, why the big deal about "Priesthood authority" ?

So much of this type of BS in the LDS world it makes reality into cartoon life. Like 'translation' with a Urim and Thummim that was really done with a magic peepstone in a hat!

The reality of LDS is that is is a world of lies.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: May 22, 2018 08:09PM

Aw, those guys are so old fashioned...

https://oilvault.com/

Magic oil. Sigh.

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Posted by: Badassadam1 ( )
Date: May 27, 2018 01:57PM

You know all the hook-ups for the good stuff. The badass is a little impressed.

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Posted by: Concerned Citizen 2.0 ( )
Date: May 22, 2018 08:16PM

...the olive oil trade out of Italy is corrupt. Numerous exposes on this. The business is controlled and managed by the Italian Mafia who dilute and blend the pure oils with other adulterants. Most chefs and other food specialists recommend the California oils, which are pure for the most part.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 04:01AM

I've heard this too on news reports.

Personally favor canola oil.

My dad used to keep a small glass vial of olive oil for priesthood blessings, never for cooking.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 05:30AM

Consumer Reports did an article on olive oils awhile back. They brought up the same point, that many of the oils are blended. Their top rated brand was from California, and that's what I use.

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Posted by: Jane Cannary ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 10:14AM

Me too. I used to think I didn't like olive oil until I tried California Olive Ranch brand. Now it's the only thing I'll dress my steamed vegetables with. Delicious!

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 04:47PM

That's the pure one. My son uses it for cooking, and he's an excellent cook. California Olive Ranch.

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 11:26AM

I don't know if Costco's Kirkland brand organic extra-virgin olive oil comes from Italy or California or New York City. And I don't even really care if it's pure. All I know is that I haven't tasted any that I like better. I throw oil out at the first smell of any rancidity, so I usually throw half a bottle out before I use it all, but even then it probably ended up being cheaper than any expensive brands.

I should cut a deal with the mormons that I'll buy a big thingy of that olive oil if they'll bless it and then I'll give them half of it. They'd get plenty for all the vials they need for their voodoo magic, and I'd get blessed oil. You know, just in case I have the heat up too high when I'm sauteing garlic or something. Surely blessed oil won't burn.

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Posted by: fossilman ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 04:26PM

If you use consecrated extra virgin olive oil on your big salad, do you still have to ask a blessing on it?

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 05:03PM

I think you'd be safe as long as you know that the oil is covering all your romaine lettuce from Yuma. If you're unsure, don't take any chances. Make sure you've blessed it all to strengthen, nourish and not poison your body.

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Posted by: stellam ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 04:46PM

The Kirkland really is delicious.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 11:26PM

stellam Wrote:
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> The Kirkland really is delicious.

On a serious note, "Italian Olive Oil" simply means that some of it was in Italy at one point. Then blended. It could have been sourced anywhere in the Mediterranean or Middle East.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: May 22, 2018 09:40PM

James 5:14 sets the biblical precedent for the elders to anoint the sick with oil and pray for them.

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: May 22, 2018 09:50PM

just LOL @ exmos not wearing olive oil ~

~ (srs) ~

~ brb ~ looking like a BRONZED EXMO GOD ~

~ brb ~ exmo biblically moisturizing the skin ~

~ brb ~ exmo getting a nice solar sear ~

~ brb ~ exmo be looking like a Lamenite ~

~ brb ~ no Moronmon chemicals ~

~ brb ~ attracting exmos babes cuz you smell like that master chef ~


~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~



~ in b 4 ~ flies love it too ~

~ in b 4 ~ mobil 10W-40 ~

~ in b 4 ~ Pam ~

~ in b 4 ~ exmos attracting phat exmo babes by using bacon grease ~

~ in b 4 ~ exmos using extra virgin olive oil ~



~ brb ~ in b 4 ~ in b 4 ~

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: May 22, 2018 10:05PM

This issue is an interesting demonstration of LDS' Pharisaism: the belief that a ritual or other practice must be done "just right," or it is invalid--that God won't honor it.* This is what Luther railed against with the corrupt medieval Catholic church.

JoeSmith777, your point about the hypothetical child rapist baptizing somebody is not so hypothetical. What makes the baptism "effective?" The spiritual purity of the baptizer? What about an immoral baptizer who has the right priesthood "credentials?" (A big thing for Luther.) Or the heart of the baptizee? What if the baptizee is not knowledgeable about his new faith? Or doing it for improper reasons (like winning the heart of a sweetheart?).

Because of its focus on church power and legitimacy, LDS gets this all wrong, like the medieval Catholic church did.

*In this case, yes, their pagan "Elohim" probably won't.

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Posted by: Bill ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 09:10AM

Down in the south...Alabama where I have lived..us Redneck Mormons used motor oil for blessin'..oh yeah..it's true.

But not just any motor oil mind you...

I mean we ain't discivilized or nothing.

It had to be sin-thetic.

Bwahahahahah..Get it.."sin" thetic. Thank you thank you..I'll be performing by my van down by the river on Friday nights.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 10:30AM

Strikes me as theologically correct, referencing the Trinity, three-in-one, yet unified.

(And yeah, Bubba Bill, I did get "sin-thetic." Smooth!

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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 11:16AM

Well, why doesn't TSCC just require the members to get their oh-so-pure olive oil from the church oil distribution center! I can see it now...another for-profit arm of the corporation. Oops, I have probably given the COB spies on here an idea...sorry.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 01:14PM

I'd love to see an episode of PBS' 'America's Test Kitchen' with mormon olive oil:

"Well, Julia, we tried the Italian blend on the Boy Scout's broken leg, and it did next to nothing, but the pure California oil fixed Sister Bennett's lung cancer right away! It's too bad she didn't have enough faith, though, because she died last week."

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Posted by: sbg ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 01:30PM

This made me spit tea on my keyboard.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: May 26, 2018 12:30AM


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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 01:28PM

You know those vials of consecrated oil would become rancid in a short time due to climates of extreme heat. It's funny how we, dumb as rocks missionaries, figured this out by ourselves. We never had a single meeting or conference where our high and mighty spiritual giant mission president brought this nasty fact to our attention. Oh and I once poured holy oil on my bicycle chain when it continued to fall off the sprocket. Like priesthood blessings, it didn't heal the chain either.

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Posted by: Jonny the Smoke ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 01:46PM

So the mormon god can change change water into wine, human DNA from Jewish to Asian, a few fishes and pieces of bread into an all you can eat buffet, slam pieces of planets together and then hurl the new planet across the universe to its current orbit, change light skin to dark and then back and forth again, change a monogamous man into a polygamist :) etc.

But he can't change blended olive oil into pure olive oil, even when sincerely asked by his devoted followers.

Olive oil must be a very tricky magical substance to work with, very tricky indeed.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 10:19PM

One of the many funny inconsistencies in Mormonism... But it's true! Because of feelings!! LOL!

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Posted by: anon 4 this joke ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 03:41PM

Because Popeye wouldn't want her otherwise. He was very old-fashioned. Lived in a black & white world.

I can't believe no one else thought of this.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 08:42PM

Until enough Italian immigrants came to the US, olive oil was almost impossible to find here. People weren't even growing tomatoes until the Italians popularized it. So I don't know when consecrating olive oil came into practice in the church but It would be impossible to find in Brigham Young's Utah and even back east when Joseph Smith was running the show. I always saw it as another foolish ritual the Mormons fuss about.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 09:29PM

Because somebody once said it, and in Mormonism, that makes it true.

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Posted by: exminion ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 09:47PM

Pioneer recipes called for lard, instead of oil.

I wonder what like of oil they use in the temple?

What is the effect of olive oil on skin fungus?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 23, 2018 10:32PM

exminion Wrote:
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> I wonder what (kind) of oil they use in the temple?
>

I'm not the kind to make stuff up and then pass it along as the gospel truth, or even just the mormon gospel, but I've heard that they used to use Lamanite oil in the temple!!! Seriously!! Would I lie about stuff I just made up? No way!!!

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: May 24, 2018 01:56PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> ...but I've heard that they used to use
> Lamanite oil in the temple!!! Seriously!! Would
> I lie about stuff I just made up? No way!!!

Is that oil made from ground-up Lamanites? :)

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 24, 2018 02:42PM

No, they use scrappers, to scrape the 'oil' off their skin. This goes back to about 500 B.C., I'm told... (made up)

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: May 26, 2018 03:57PM

...wouldn't Lamanite oil come from compressed Lamanites?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 27, 2018 01:36PM

Well, we do get stepped on a lot.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: May 28, 2018 12:27AM

Exactly. Because cooking oil wasn't available. Olive oil definitely wasn't available to the Mormons in the early church. They used lard because that is what was available. They weren't making oil soap. they were making soap out of lye and lard. They were greasing the patches for their muzzleloading rifles with lard. Heck. They probably were using lard for a personal lubricant.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 24, 2018 12:50PM

From investigation it is my opinion that unless you grow your olives on your own tree and press the oil yourself it is virtually impossible to obtain "PURE" olive oil.

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Posted by: jackman ( )
Date: May 24, 2018 12:58PM

Olive trees are not native to the Americas.

For how essential olive oil is to the temple initiatory and the priesthood, it's unfortunate that God neglected to tell the Jaredites and the Nephites to remember to bring olive trees with them to the new world.

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Posted by: sd ( )
Date: May 24, 2018 01:18PM

Bad Mormons.Com they use it for anal lube. The expression I see on the women's faces certainly suggest they are having some kind of spiritual experience. Maybe there is some truth to it all after all.

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Posted by: GNPE1 ( )
Date: May 24, 2018 03:01PM

? is there room in the Vault for another RfM Classic?

are nominations still open for this year?

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: May 26, 2018 11:32AM

...(according to a previous poster)...do Mormon gun owners use anointed gun oil on their firearms?

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Posted by: olderelder ( )
Date: May 26, 2018 03:00PM

Should they be able to turn impure olive oil pure with their magical priesthood superpowers? Hell, they should be able to transmute dirt into pure EVOO.

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Posted by: quatermass2 ( )
Date: May 27, 2018 07:25AM

"Pure Olive Oil? WHY?"

Control. Pure and simple.

Yet another small detail to be obeyed to the letter or else.

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Posted by: anonculus ( )
Date: May 28, 2018 06:02PM

>>Some said it had to be real because the label said it was.<<

There ya go. Speaks volumes about TBMs.

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Posted by: frankie ( )
Date: May 28, 2018 07:05PM

because being virgin is the best.. Someone should play fun and use motor oil

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