Who wrote that those less valiant in the pre-existence are "known to us as Negroes"?

Shouldn't his last name be spelled McHonky?

Jaxson Wrote:
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> Who wrote that those less valiant in the
> pre-existence are "known to us as Negroes"?
>
> Shouldn't his last name be spelled McHonky?

Or perhaps McDonkey because he was such an ASS !!!! Certainly more of an ASSpostHOLE than an apostle.

To his credit, they did try to bury his book.

"McHonky" FOFLMFAO

Me, too!

Well done, thou good and faithless servant!!

Ok. Here goes. Final Category. American Religious Authors.

Who wore the definitive book on the unique beliefs of a growing American Religion that started in the early 1800?

Answer: Bruce R McConkie

Oh ya.. the man who wrote: "Mormon Doctrine" - the original was pulled shortly after it hit the market and only a few people have a copy of it, I am told.
I used his book for reference to figure out what the heck these Mormons believed. I had converted and was struggling with what they were talking about.
That book is a little encyclopedia. The great thing about Mormons is they write everything down!



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Who is a man who wrote a book called "Mormon Doctrine," explaining clearly what mormons actually believe, only to have mormon leaders tell him he shouldn't be writing down what mormons actually believe, 'cause it's embarrassing and disturbing?

True or false what he penned, but in my opinion Bruce R. McConkie was the greatest scriptorian of the 20th century in the church. Unsurpassed clearness and logic.

“Unsurpassed clearness and logic“???

Certainly not in his most(in)famous work, “Mormon Doctrine.”

I hope that is irony.

If not, Where in the scriptures are we told that:

1) Upon baptism, a person's blood changes to Israeli blood,

2) After the resurrection the vast majority of people will have perfect bodies except for missing genitalia,

3) Mozart's music is spiritual but Bach's is worldly and may not be played in church,

4) Evolution is a fact within genuses but not between them,

5) The Catholic church is the whore of all the earth,

6) People of African descent may not hold the priesthood or be married in temples?

To name a few. He wasn't much of a scriptorian.

ktk Wrote:
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> True or false what he penned, but in my opinion
> Bruce R. McConkie was the greatest scriptorian of
> the 20th century in the church. Unsurpassed
> clearness and logic.


Unsurpassed in CIRCULAR logic.
....It seems that any one who really had any mastery of the scriptures would also have mastery of the fact that MORmONISM is a SHAM. As well, there are Jewish scriptorians who make Bruce McConkie look like a novice.

His book is the reason for the existence of Bookcraft, the "acceptable" alternative to Deseret Book. He pretty much started the company so he could get a publisher. Somebody help me with the details here.

McConkie built upon the words of Orson Pratt— “Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon’ whom the Lord denounces...as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. And any person who shall be so wicked as to receive a holy ordinance of the gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them.”

There was something to this effect in the FIRST EDITION of Mormon Doctrine—The Harlot of Babylon is the Catholic Church and the Protestants are the daughters of the whore.

Bruce was told to tone it down for the second edition.



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That makes me want to investigate Catholicism.

He came off as a harsh, cruel man. Also, he taught that having a relationship with Jesus Christ is wrong and harmful.

I remember him giving a Mormon “fire and brimstone” devotional at BYU where he practically screamed, “We pray to God the Father in the NAME of Jesus Christ, we NEVER PRAY to Jesus Christ!”

I have yet to attend worship at a major Christian church—Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, or Anglican where prayers have NOT been addressed to Jesus Christ. Somehow, Christians, being Christians, all agree on worshipping our savior, not so with Mormons.

+ 1

Bruce McDonkey came to the area where I was serving a mission (sentence). Bruce McDonkey spoke at a multi stake conference.

Wow. What an extreme disappointment. From that point on, it became quite clear to me, that IF there really was a MORmON heaven ( celestial kindDUMB) I really had NO interest in being there with people like McDonkey or people (MORmONS) so vapid that they could find McDonkey to be inspiring.

Bruce R. As he was universally referred to was the mission president over our backwater area when I was a small child.

He terrified me. There was no spark of kindliness or empathy in him

Greg Prince once asked the question, who did more damage to
Mormonism, Faun Brodie, or Bruce R. McConkie?

He pointed out that for decades every Christian minister had
photocopies of select pages of McConkie's "Mormon Doctrine" in
their files. When one of their flock was contacted by the
mishies, the minister would simply pull out the quotes from
"Mormon Doctrine" and sit down and share it with the
"investigator."

It's a common story by missionaries of how a "golden contact"
suddenly and abruptly wanted to end the discussions and have no
more contact. Missionaries often would say, "his minister got to
him." Now you know HOW his minister got to him.

Hooo-hoo. This book is $300.

https://www.biblio.com/book/mormon-doctrine-mcconkie-bruce-redd/d/1126201722?aid=frg&utm_source=google&utm_medium=product&utm_campaign=feed-details&gclid=Cj0KCQjwn4ncBRCaARIsAFD5-gUF1TJEqkSP4q1AIORLrsCjSAStTD3l-baAFhyZ4Awl2Ch3LBc5wPYaAhu0EALw_wcB

Wowsers!!!

Good find!!!

You & Mr. Prince share a love of history. Any pictures of you two together?

Wikipedia has a pretty thorough post about BRM. Something that now I've read, am pretty sure I'll never have to do that again.
It's pretty detailed about the response when he wrote it and how it was modified by him and Spence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_R._McConkie

There's also a page or more of Mormon Doctrine editions, on Ebay.

I'm sure they are all the updated version. I wonder who has the original?

"I wonder who has the original?

Surely Richard Packham?

I truly believe that him and Boyd K. Packer are among the most evil men of the 20th century. Truly wolves in sheep’s clothing, Cut from the same Satanic cloth, If Satan exists and if he wears clothes.

It's true... "It doesn't have to get all weird"!

God would make a SIMPLE religion right?

Not one that's filled with quicksand traps, non-smoking pot holes, superstitious situations, fears, worries, discomforts and oxy-morons.

Just saying

M@t

“Who used to say, ‘Well, my FIL is the prophet, so go fornicate yourselves, critics!’?”

as long as we're talking about books...

I thought Talmage's book Jesus the Christ was pretty good, at least he wove in some human attributes to JC like kindness & forgiving...


comments?

https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/bruce-r-mcconkie_relationship-lord/

This was certainly one of the more arrogant speeches I have ever red.

An interesting archived discussion on McConkie and his book, complete with page numbers of pages deemed problematic by LDS authorities:

https://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon193.htm


link to an online copy of McConkie's original "masterpiece" (as given above by lisadee):

https://www.docdroid.net/sHlwqCg/mormon-doctrine-1958-first-edition-bruce-mcconkie.pdf