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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 11:01AM

Ok what if missionaries said we believe there are many gods and we believe in a heavenly mother and people have black skin because of angels that fell, and Joseph Smith changed his vision many times, he had 43 wives was a freemason

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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 11:04AM

He was not a martyr and made the book of Mormon up, Brigham young hated black people and we hate gays and black people now. Our purpose as missionaries is to tell everyone how wrong they are and how true our church is. We want more people to give money and we will harass you all the time

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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 11:06AM

And we will live on planets someday, I wish missionaries said this but not they don't! And people get baptized and have to give money to this very rich church that hates! Because the Mormon church does

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 09:50PM

Crazy horse Wrote:
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> Brigham young hated black people

Brigham Young was definitely a racist, but he didn't hate black
people. He was totally convinced (and publicly taught) that
blacks were inferior to whites and he was instrumental in
establishing racist Church policies that lasted at least until
1978. He even referred to his prophetic mantle when declaring
that "this people that are commonly called negroes are the
children of old Cain." As Utah Territorial Governor he spoke
twice before the Utah Territorial Legislature in favor of a
bill legalizing slavery of blacks (Utah was a slave territory
until Lincoln's executive order in 1862 ended slavery in the
territories).

However he didn't hate black people.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2018 09:51PM by baura.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: September 10, 2018 12:19AM

That’s right. He only thought interracial couples should be summarily executed.

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Posted by: dogblogger ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 01:52PM

I think they do tell the truth about what they believe. What they believe and the deeper facts of history and doctrine just happen to not match.

When I say facts of doctrine, that is not to say the doctrine is factual but the facts of what the church asserts as doctrine.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 02:59PM

Well they all bear strong witnesses to the awesomeness of Jello. That ought to count for something.

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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 03:01PM

I have prayed and know that coke is true! Mormonism is a bunch of fairy tales

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Posted by: dogblogger ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 05:03PM

Follow the sandal!

No, we must follow the gourd! The holy gourd of Jerusalem!

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 06:16PM

Finances: everything is owned by Top Dog, & he ain't telling where the bones are hidden or how many he has.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2018 06:17PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 11:39PM

"Top dog" backwards is "god pot"...

need anything more be said?

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 09:08PM

A red-eyed Q15 would be a great improvement.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 09:59PM

Goddam mad dog!

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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 06:30PM

And live like kings while asking for more money and telling Mormons to not ask questions at all, the Mormon church is scared people will find out the truth and there will be no more converts or money

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 07:10PM

One thing that I learned while very young was that,in religion, if the truth conflicts with the legend it is best to follow the legend.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 10:00PM

Are you the missionary who baptized Liberty Valence?

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 07:17PM

I wonder if they truly know what they believe!

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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 08:24PM

Oh Mormons think they have the true church and the book of Mormon is true! More like fairy tales to me and why pray over a book?

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 09:09PM

Mormonism is a terrible thing to foist upon a developing prefrontal cortex. It’s bad enough trying to figure out the real world without having shit for brains.

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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 10:00PM

And 18 year Olds wasting 2 years for nothing

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Posted by: Think ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 11:42AM

Crazy horse Wrote:
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> Ok what if missionaries said we believe there are
> many gods and we believe in a heavenly mother and
> people have black skin because of angels that
> fell, and Joseph Smith changed his vision many
> times, he had 43 wives was a freemason

You would have (practically) nothing to talk about

It's true

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Posted by: Crazy horse ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 12:21PM

And no one would be baptized and give money to this hate group

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Posted by: Truebeliefs ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 11:23PM

Crazy horse Wrote:
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> And no one would be baptized and give money to
> this [love] hate group


Do you always come here so you can answer your own questions... and laugh at yourself?

MovinGon

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 12:55PM

"We believe what we believe because that's what we are told believe, and even if it doesn't give us warm fuzzies, we act like it does. Now, when can we set your baptism date, because we want to get the hell out of here, go home and get laid."

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 08:02PM

So many of the church’s problems would be solved if the sisters put a coordinated effort into relieving these guys of their virginity. Gives a whole new meaning to “Relief Society”.

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 07:54PM

A number of times I was requested to go on splits with the mishies. I NEVER told any "investigator" TSCC was true. I never confirmed any belief in it at all. I even told some that I didn't agree with MO doctrines. But, because I was friendly with everyone, almost ALL joined. I was even asked to baptize some because they preferred me to the mishies. Fortunately, I don't know of any who stayed long.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 08:44PM

No truths are taught at the MTC.

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Posted by: moremany-NLI ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 11:45PM

Not only that.
Fiction IS taught there.

Missionaries could learn so much more at home, away from home, if only they knew where that is.

Mormonism ruins many/ most/ all conceptions of home, care, interest, creativity, thought, love, truth, etc.

I'd say get the hell out of Mormonism (but that would leave it empty, the way it is found) but the question is what is it doing there in the last place... and it would be impossible anyway. It is built-in.

MTC - Missing [Most] True (Teachings) Cares/ Concerns

M@t

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Posted by: Ex-CultMember ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 08:54PM

Yeah, there'd be a lot less "converts" to the church. Probably like 90% less.

I remember doing my best to only give them the milk instead of the meat when teaching investigators. We always dreaded taking ward members to lessons because of the fear they'd say something that would scare off the investigator. Usually the older the member, the more crazier deep doctrine they'd blab about. Even the Urim and Thummim freaked one investigator out. We usually kept the details of the golden plates and translation out of the discussion unless they kept digging.

It's a sign of a cult if you have to keep back information because you'd lose converts because of it.

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