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Posted by: lisadee ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 03:48PM

This blog has pics from the raid which were not published then.
https://stevenwarran.blogspot.com/2014/02/life-magazine-raid-on-polygamous-town.html?m=1

I've seen elsewhere pics of some of Clyde Mackert's family. Ive also read accounts from Mary and Kathleen. He was a monster who molested his daughters.

Cheryl: I thought you might know some of the people in these pics.

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Posted by: lisadee ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 03:54PM

Clyde Mackert


https://goo.gl/images/7CVp6u



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Posted by: lisadee ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 03:58PM


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Posted by: anono this week ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 04:08PM

funny that they don't look too bad? In fact They look pretty normal to me. Where were all the crazy criminals, all the supposed haggard women? the starving children?

interesting....

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Posted by: lisadee ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 04:45PM

anono this week Wrote:
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> funny that they don't look too bad? In fact They
> look pretty normal to me. Where were all the crazy
> criminals, all the supposed haggard women? the
> starving children?
>
> interesting....

Well, they may not have been starving. But pictures don't tell that Clyde Mackert was molesting his daughters. Perhaps some of them in that pic. After that magazine issue, he was praises and lauded in Short Creek.
....the rapey bastard.



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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 04:36PM

we know what these 'raids' were like,

I'd like to see the Results of the legal proceedings...

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 05:09PM

The general area surrounding Short Creek/Colorado City was one of the first areas my aunt prospected in her uranium finding business (southern Nevada was soon to follow), but during the time my aunt's business was active in the area, I (still a child) was driven through the town a number of times.

We never stopped in town for anything, though I wanted to, but I still remember seeing the kids there (especially the girls my age), and feeling so sorry for them, and wondering why I had so much freedom and adventure, and they were essentially captives.

I still remember the eyes of the girls, because when I was close enough to see their faces well, I often saw fear, and always an obvious reluctance to interact with us in any way.

There are a couple of girls I can still see clearly in my memory (especially one girl who had blonde braids and was wearing a blue dress), because their fear of even me (I was about their age) was so pronounced.

Those drives through town made a deep and lasting impression on me, and got me thinking about "why" some people are born so well off in different ways, and others are born into places like Short Creek/Colorado City.



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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 05:14PM

Whether you or I are for or against ploygamy is not and was not the issue.
IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW OF THE LAND!
If someone breaks the law there are behavioral consequences.
In my opinion END OF STORY!!!!!!!
Please disagree of you so choose. Disagree but don't attack me!

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Posted by: scmd1 ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 07:28PM

Thedesertrat1, I will point out that some of the land's laws are prosecuted with greater zeal than are others. I will go one step further and say that in my opinion, not every statute that has ever been law in this land has necessarily been just. I'm not saying I have a problem with laws against polygamy, but rather, that I won't necessarily get behind EVERY police action ever taken because it is "the law of the land." You seem to place more value in that than I do.

I'm not even saying that it wasn't a just prosecution in the case of the Short Creek raid, though I do wonder if anything was done at the time to actually help the victims. I haven't seen much to indicate that any of the victims were helped by the raid itself, though maybe they were and I just don't know about it.



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Posted by: Gheco ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 09:58PM

thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> Whether you or I are for or against ploygamy is
> not and was not the issue.
> IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW OF THE LAND!
> If someone breaks the law there are behavioral
> consequences.
> In my opinion END OF STORY!!!!!!!
> Please disagree of you so choose. Disagree but
> don't attack me!


The same could be said of the thousands of people, many of color, incarcerated in for profit prisons because of marijuana.

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Posted by: pollythinks ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 05:25PM

No such thing as the cozy sherif's jail run in Mayberry.

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Posted by: Kathleen ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 09:19PM

With maybe two exceptions, the *women* in those pics looked to me to in their mid teens.

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Posted by: xxMo0 ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 11:04PM

lisadee Wrote:
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> This blog has pics from the raid which were not
> published then.
> https://stevenwarran.blogspot.com/2014/02/life-mag
> azine-raid-on-polygamous-town.html?m=1
>
> I've seen elsewhere pics of some of Clyde
> Mackert's family. Ive also read accounts from Mary
> and Kathleen. He was a monster who molested his
> daughters.

So maybe just, I dunno, arrest the guy instead of destroying the whole town?

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Posted by: Josef ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 11:30PM

Interesting, thank you. Some of these I had seen, others not. And, the do indeed look surprisingly normal. Well, other than Joseph Smith Jessop; he looks unintentionally hilarious.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: January 16, 2019 11:53PM

I was living in Tucson at the time and I cleaarly rmemeber the hoopla this caused.

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