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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: March 06, 2019 09:13PM

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/03/07/new-bill-will-make/

I've been worried about this for years. LOL

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: March 06, 2019 10:13PM

"A new bill in the Utah Legislature will make sex outside of marriage legal."

It's good to know that you will now be among the law-abiding, Gemini. ;)

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Posted by: rocomop ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 11:37AM

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> "A new bill in the Utah Legislature will
> make sex outside of marriage legal."
>

I won't be impressed with the Utah legislature until they make fornication mandatory.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 11:41AM

So you want Utah to catch up to California?

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: March 06, 2019 10:54PM

Color me naïve, but I did not know these kinds of laws were still on the books!

Congrats, gemini!

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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: March 06, 2019 11:21PM

Yes, they are. The general consensus was that they are never prosecuted nor enforceable. Sodomy, adultery and fornication were all taken out of the criminal code. The opposition to the change was kind of laughable to me.

Many other states had removed these archaic laws years ago but finally Utah decided to get with the times.

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Posted by: olderelder ( )
Date: March 06, 2019 11:41PM

Since the Utah legislature does nothing without first consulting the brethren, does this mean they're okay with fornication? And are they okay with it because they have some women on the side?

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: March 06, 2019 11:44PM


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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: March 07, 2019 12:32AM

Yeah, but I'll bet you drink full-strength beer!

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 12:42PM

as a statement. No, I think committing adultery is good enough of a statement.

Hey, gemini, so they thought that you being a fornicator was worse than me being an adulteress. They are so nuts around here.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: March 07, 2019 12:45AM

Is it still illegal to have the word "beer" on a billboard ?

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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: March 27, 2019 11:59PM

Well, it is official! The gov "quietly" signed that bill into law today. The adultery and sodomy changes were hailed as "about time" things and sailed right through the legislature but the fornication part seemed to bother more of the uptight lawmakers for some reason.

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Posted by: rocomop ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 12:43AM

What if I fornicate and then give her money?

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 01:06AM


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Posted by: 3X ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 01:30PM

Did you mean Robert Kraft??

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Posted by: macaRomney ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 05:19AM

I can't think of a good reason why fornication is nice for society? It's probably better not to fornicate unless I'm missing something...

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Posted by: Humberto ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 05:36AM

You're definitely missing something.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 05:41AM

>>I can't think of a good reason why fornication is nice for society?

Because it falls under the "pursuit of happiness"? Or any reasonable definition of privacy?

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Posted by: lachesis ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 11:14AM

I'd imagine there's a good chance that the legislators who protested it the most are the ones who are the most guilty of it. We see that all the time ("Methinks the lady doth protest too much"). The high councilor who gave my exspouse the biggest grilling during his high council court was, as it came out a year or so later, in the middle of a 2-year-long affair himself.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 11:34AM

Joseph Smith approves of this move as long as there is a sham spiritual marriage that lasts for a few days.

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 12:46PM

gemini and I come from straight/gay marriages. We've had to walk a path that few do, but then again, far too many have to. We have our reasons for being a fornicator and an adulteress. And our lives work for us as we've both shown, having had long-term relationships with our boyfriends/fiance for gemini. If I wanted to get engaged I could. If I wanted to marry, I could.

We're too old to produce any more children.

As my therapist says, "If it works, why mess with it?" I've been with my boyfriend for longer than my marriage lasted.

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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 03:20PM

AMEN!! no one knows how much heartache cl2 and I and many others have been through with our situations.

It also gets complicated with grown children and grandchildren.

I've talked to my grown children (all TBM) about my living arrangement. They are actually very grateful for my fiance. He has been a godsend to me during some very scary health situations. He repairs all our cars and keeps them in tip top shape. We are good for each other.

At this time of my life, I will live it the way I choose and finding companionship with a straight man who loves me is what I choose. When or if we get married is going to be our decision alone.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: March 28, 2019 05:50PM

Likewise:

"At this time of my life, I will live it the way I choose and finding companionship with a straight (wo)man who loves me is what I choose. When or if we get married is going to be (her) decision alone."

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: March 29, 2019 10:37PM

you make excellent choices.

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