Date: April 07, 2019 09:43PM
I attended quite a few churches in the two years of my initial despair over LDS leadership and the idolization of that leadership. I attended Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, and non-affiliated congregations before I attended the Anglican services. Anglicans are a liturgical religion, and the Book of Common Prayer is what brought me to them. It was a relief to know exactly what was going to be said and done during the services (no more crazy doctrinal weirdness or talks from people who know sod-all about God and too much about Joseph Smith).
When the priest asked to speak to me in his office, I told him I had left Mormonism and why. He was a wonderful man. He asked if I wanted to be baptized. I said, "when?" He said, "how about tomorrow?" And with shaking knees, I did it. I haven't looked back--and find peace and worship aplenty.
Date: April 05, 2019 07:15AM
If the church would have had any access to God, they would have known fourty years or more ago what the internet tells us now, that there was just as many gay people then (by percentage) as there are now. So why did gods so-called representatives preside over teachings and a culture that promotes suicide of these people then, but suddenly figures out what they were doing wrong, just now? Was the church wrong then, or is it wrong now? If you could put the Spencer W. Kimball of the late 1970s in a room together with today's President Nelson, which God would they have in common? Looking back to 2015, why was it appropriate for a child to disavow their parents then, but now the church doesn't want them to disavow those same parents now? Is the church listening to God or to the large group of people who resigned from the church after 2015? If the church stops disciplining what they say is a sin that is next in serious to murder, when will they start teaching that murder isn't so bad either? Where are their formal apologies from their self-acknowledged mistaken policies and docterines of the past? Where is their moral core?
In this theocracy where church members are not given a vote and are only asked to sustain their support of their church leaders, my premise that I have held for several years now has been that each church member really does get to vote and that their votes count. But you only get one vote. It's the one that you cast when you resign your church membership. That vote really does count as is evident by this change in church policy. Apparently, it only took one thousand to fifteen hundred member resignations to vote-in a change of church policy on a deeply ingrained issue this time. What next?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2019 07:25AM by azsteve.
Valium and Pepsi
Date: April 05, 2019 12:10PM
Sorry, Mormons, it's too late. Those members who resigned are not going to return any time soon. Once you've discovered the countless lies, and you've felt freedom from the burden of those lies, and you've seen your children become more joyful, and you've let love take the place of dogma, you never want to crawl back down that muddy rabbit-hole.
Where was the Mormon church when gays were the underdogs? When the suicides were happening? The Mormons were denying, casting blame on others, shunning, doing electroshock in the basement at BYU. The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach.
I predicted this would happen, and no one would believed me. I have friends who are gay, and I know what power they and their supporters have as an organized group, politically, socially, and FINANCIALLY. They hit the Mormons where it hurts--in their wallet! Of course, the Mormon cult changed their policy!" I'm having fun saying "I told you so."
I read somewhere that college sports teams were refusing to play games with BYU and other church schools, because of this issue. A large, powerful Nation-wide group can really put the pressure onto a little Utah cult.
I love your comments, here, especially about the Mormons blaming God for all of this.