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Posted by: Cannot Remember ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 12:27PM

Just when you think the Daybell and Vallow duo can't get any crazier, more information and more deaths are tied to them.

This article details she believes she is a translated being/god with her own planet. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/documents-lori-vallow-claims-she-was-god-preparing-for-second-coming-of-christ

I'm afraid the kids have been murdered and "sent" to the planet.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 01:02PM

This is why early Mormons needed to discourage people from getting too much "personal revelation" that competed with the prophet's revelations.

People started thinking their revelations were just as valid. Oh wait.

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 01:59PM

that I had seen another thing about Jim Jones just previous to reading the thread and this attitude sounds just like what Jim Jones was telling his followers as he killed them, that they were going somewhere better. He KNEW better than they did.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 02:33PM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/doomsday-writer-chad-daybells-friend-says-he-prophesied-wifes-mysterious-death


https://universalmodel.com/um-introduction/

The Universal Model, A New Millennial Science, is a 27-year research project that was released to the world at the end of 2016. At that time the Universal Model (UM) became available digitally and the print version was released on 6 April, 2017. This first release includes Volume I, the Earth System (832 pages), and will be followed by Volume II, the Living System planned for release at the end of 2017 which will be followed by Volume III, the Universe System.

These three volumes comprise a scientific work with a breadth and depth that is unparalleled in the scientific world. Never before have so many new scientific discovery been found in a single research project. The UM is written to inspire a different thinking about science and about how to apply scientific principles during the coming years, destined to provoke thought and arouse the curiosity of not only the science minded, professional and amateur alike, but every individual who simply wants to know how Nature works and why we are such an important part of all the beauty that surrounds us.

Volume I, the Earth System first presents essential introductory chapters on science that expound the necessity of objective scientific study, and the tremendously important principle that “Answers come from questions.” The establishment of the Universal Scientific Method, used throughout the UM helps to align the process of inquiry and new discovery across all the general scientific fields. The first scientific field to be discussed is geology. Here a new paradigm describing Nature’s actual planet-building processes and other world-wide geological events that affect our entire modern civilized world are discussed. The existence of magma which has never been observed, is questioned and leads us to naturally inquire about the composition of the Earth’s interior. These questions lead us to unanswered mysteries that abound in modern geology, such as the real origin of lava and the heat that drives it, long-held, false notions about rock origins, such as where salt, sand, and the majority of sediment come from are unknown mysteries that remain unexplained by geology’s magmaplanet and rock cycle theories. With the new Hydroplanet Model, we find hundreds of new evidences explaining why water exists almost everywhere, on planets and moons, in the outermost reaches of space, and even in stars, like our Sun. We learn for the first time how water links the solar system’s craters to the true origin of meteorites. With this new paradigm of water, we explore one of the Earth’s seminal events, an episode that left its indelible mark in countless ways, of which we document thirteen distinctive Marks of the Universal Flood. This event affected the whole Earth, shaping and forming the vast majority of its surface. Hands-on experiments demonstrate how a great many of the Earth’s abundant minerals and crystals formed, not from a magma melt over millions of years but in a newly discovered water-pressure-thermal environment in only days. In this first volume the newly found geological revelations also verify the origin of weather through the application of these new observations and experiments. Here new insights into the global warming debate are found that can be scientifically demonstrated.

Volume II, The Living System first treats the myriad of failed Earth-dating methods, and shows a number of deceptions that have been perpetrated upon the unknowing public. The dating game created by the radiometric dating method is delineated with a number of real examples showing the deficient science behind the chronological record of the Earth and mankind. The real age of the Earth is documented with new research, which solves the mystery surrounding the formation of our planet’s fossils based on the discovery of a method that forms fossils in mere days, not millions of years. Destined to rank as one of the most significant discoveries in the UM, the rapid formation of fossils refutes evolutionary theory, which once debunked, allows for the discovery and elucidation of new Laws of Life. In the last chapters of Volume II, a new World History Model brings together scientific evidence from a number of fields showing the true origin and migration of the Earth’s human population, and an introduction to the culture and geography of the very earliest Human beings. We no longer are hominid beings coming from apes out of Africa and discover what a human being is and being human requires. Discoveries about our self and the human experience close this volume which is sure to invite more controversy especially around the human sciences.

Volume III, The Universe System contains pioneering discoveries in the fields of physics, chemistry, and cosmology that overturn long-held, false theories about energy, matter and the Universe. New observations affecting the measurement of mass, length, and time further upset many false beliefs that have derailed science’s progress. The discovery of the origin of the dual particle-wave nature of light as well as a revolutionary atomic model, which allows the explanation of actual observations better than existing theory. New models describing air, water and other natural substances use exciting novel and easy to understand concepts to demonstrate natural phenomena. By coordinating all of these discoveries and observations into a new model of the Universe, including new Solar and Meteor Models, the UM describes current observations with clarity and veracity, obviating the need for incoherent modern theory that cannot answer fundamental questions concerning these celestial objects.

The Universal Model includes the introduction of more natural law and scientific truth in these three volumes than in any other scientific work ever published. Its ultimate purpose is to lift humanity by fostering understanding and promoting the comprehension of Nature. The UM does so by restoring truth and order in science, and by establishing new natural law. We invite every reader to ponder these momentous questions about the Earth’s origins, and to ask why we are such an important part of all the beauty that surrounds us.



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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 03:06PM

This is grade AAA crazy. And there are enough dead bodies in this story that one or both of these people need to be in jail ASAP.

If I knew either of these people, I'd sleep behind a locked door, preferably at an undisclosed location. Good grief.



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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 03:24PM

The Universal Model website is pretty polished. It looks like the organization is run by Dean Sessions (now there's a good Mormon name for ya). He seems to be a rock hound.

He may be crazy as a loon, but he is not incompetent. From what I saw of his website, somebody there knows how to make money. Apparently exploiting the anti-science crowd is a good business plan.

Lori Vallow, OTOH, sounds horror movie crazy. This is what happens when you combine delusional theology with delusional people. Some of them go over the edge.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: January 10, 2020 10:03PM

Arthur: This new learning amazes me Sir Bedevere. Explain to me again how sheep’s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 03:13PM

The local news in SE Idaho was reporting about this story recently. The news said they had an LDS background but appear to be in a cult now.

They said something like, "They draw people away from the church." I found that particularly funny since that is exactly what Mormons do. They send out missionaries to take others away from their religions to join the Mormon cult.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 03:30PM

I wonder... Do they accept tame Lamanites?

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Posted by: bspcnot ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 04:45PM

So just to get caught up, what does the Universal Model website relate to this couple? Also, is this the name of the cult or do they go by a different name?

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 05:10PM

Indirect connection. They were affiliated with the preparing a people group.
See this link:

https://www.preparingapeople.com/events

Notice the 10:30 AM presentation at the Rexburg event
Dean Sessions: "A Marvelous Work and a Wonder: The Universal Model of Science"

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 05:04PM

The better, innovative cults have secret names!

And nudity!!!

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 05:19PM

https://universalmodel.com/portfolio_page/bateria-evidence/

The intended purpose of many biological laboratories set up during recent decades is to generate and/or detect speciation. With modern technology, science has the ability to observe multi-generational events of small organisms like bacteria. They reproduce rapidly, creating a new generation in as little as a few hours.

The results showed that after tens-of-thousands (45,000) of generations, the bacteria were still bacteria.

To put this in perspective, consider that molecular evolutionists suggested (as of 2012) that man evolved from an ape-like creature some 60,000 years ago in Africa. If we take 60,000 years divided by 30 years—an approximate human generation—we end up with 2000 generations.

That spurious claim supposes that ‘Homo sapiens’ ‘evolved’ from a near ape-like creature after only 2,000 generations, yet after 45,000 generations, simple bacterium is still simple bacterium. Advanced human beings evolved from an ape-like creature into the marvelous beings we are today, in just 2,000 generations? Where is the logic in this ‘modern’ science assumption?

You can find more details on the subject of speciation in Chapter 12, the Evolution Pseudotheory.

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Posted by: auntsukey ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 09:05PM

And then add The Urantia Book. https://www.urantia.org

You'll know more than all the scientists and theologians in the entire world! $354.00 plus $15.99. What a deal!

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: January 10, 2020 09:36PM


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