Of course, many things bothered me about the church, before and after the Christus statue came on the scene, but when I saw the marketing of that statue--on the cover of church magazines, sold in small versions in Deseret Book Store, fawned upon by guides and magazine writers---I thought, "I don't quite think this is something that Jesus would go for."

Don't use a hammer to break the hand off that statue or you will be arrested.

Freddy got fingered.

I've never understood why a sculpture, which was commissioned for the Cathedral of Copenhagen, and is currently displayed in that church, would be used as a symbol of Mormonism.

The LDS church's statue is a copy-like so much in Mormonism.

...yep, because it is blindingly White...

And delightsome?

For los mormones, once they see "White", Delightsome is a given.

An account of Kimball visiting Copenhagen to see the original Nip Slip Jesus statue, and why Packer's rendition of it is another example of Lying for the Lord (read whole thread):

https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1656054

Every young man and young woman who completes the new church goal program (PISS) will receive a small statue. Of course it will be paid out of the ward's budget which is strictly allotted by SLC. Winners will also receive an auto-signed certificate from the top bald guys.

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> Every young man and young woman who completes the
> new church goal program (PISS)

Is this really the acronym for the program? If so, what the heck are they thinking?

Nightingale Wrote:
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> messygoop Wrote:
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> > Every young man and young woman who completes
> the
> > new church goal program (PISS)
>
> Is this really the acronym for the program? If so,
> what the heck are they thinking?

Credit our renowned teacher, Summer, for playing with the acronym. The church calls it SPSI

-Spiritual, Physical, Social and Intellectual [Growth]

I don't see why it should be respected as a symbol of anything.

Doesn't the bible say somewhere: "Thou shalt not worship graven images"?

Wise advice even if, like me, you're not any sort of religion.

Have a great weekend everyone

Tom in Paris



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If I were in Paris, I would be having a better weekend, Tom. :)

If you ever want to come, Nightingale, just drop me a line. We have surplus bedrooms and you would be very welcome ;-)

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> If you ever want to come, Nightingale, just drop
> me a line. We have surplus bedrooms and you would
> be very welcome ;-)

How very kind of you, Tom. If I can ever pour myself into an aeroplane again I may just look you up. It would be brilliant fun.

One weekend, which is all I've spent in Paris, obviously does not do it justice. My English cousin, who I went with, and I had only 2 hours to do the entire Louvre. We had to choose our top 2-3 exhibits to visit and bypass the rest, sadly. I managed to see David, Mona and Monet's lilies as we raced through the hallways.

Amazingly, because I'm hopeless with heights, I got myself up the Eiffel Tower as well. I'm so glad I did that as it's an indelible memory that I cherish. I had heard about the special light in Paris that attracted all the famous artists and I think I grasped why when I saw the sky from the Tower.

Back on earth, stupidly, I asked a street newspaper vendor for directions to the Bastille. I thought my schoolgirl French was pretty darn good. His reaction was hostile, yelling and mumbling incomprehensibly (although I got the word 'English'), and spitting at my feet. I found out later that, of course, the Bastille no longer stands. I felt like a dope. And wow, I guess Parisians have a long memory when it comes to something like those brutal days of yore in their city, understandably. And maybe also their differences with my ancestors.

I also picked up an awful bug there and had to find an MD in a hurry, clutching my little pocket dictionary to get through the appointment and come away with the correct medicine. Still, I managed to tour the Notre Dame Cathedral after that and then go on to a cabaret night where my waiter unexpectedly at some point ended up joining the nude dancers on stage that I hadn't been expecting. At all. When he came back to our table after the show to see if we wanted anything else we said no, thanks and were silly enough (and giddy with champagne) to start giggling uncontrollably. I never saw before, or since, a server person waiting on tables and then transforming into a nude dancer. I didn't actually think it was all that appetizing. A shock more like. :)

I remember seeing lots of dogs around and about. And drinking a lot of very good wine. Like you can't find any bad wine in Paris. Even if you have to order it in English. :)

Who knows. I might wash up on your shore again one day. I would definitely reach out to you. That would be a lot of fun.

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This christmas the jesus doll statue was for sale for $2.00 at Deseret Book. They had piles of them. It looked about 3" tall with the box. adorable, but tacky!

I seem to have forgotten ChurchCo's standard reply 'answer' for the graven image objection, Anyone?

Nailed it!! So tp speak

dimmesdale Wrote:
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> Of course, many things bothered me about the
> church, before and after the Christus statue came
> on the scene, but when I saw the marketing of that
> statue--on the cover of church magazines, sold in
> small versions in Deseret Book Store, fawned upon
> by guides and magazine writers---I thought, "I
> don't quite think this is something that Jesus
> would go for."