I don’t know how to post a link to Rexburg news. Using an iPad.

I hope this is the news about the children and whoever the remains are gets justice. I am surprised that yahoo and msn are not reporting this.

Anyone in the area able to confirm?

I wonder what the church’s response will be

I just saw he was arrest a mile form his home and there are police at his house.
No mention of any remains.

There are several YouTube videos and one from an Idaho news station saying it started at 7:45 am Rexburg time. FBI and police doing several digs.

That is why I posted wondering if anyone close by has better info.

Ready to be selected as a Bishop!

Yes, but did Chad get the plates of Laban?

If by church response, you mean are they going to excommunicate Chad D for the murders, no, IMHO. Nor should they. They will express condolences for the children, if their remains are found, and let the justice system take its course. If Daybell is convicted, he then will be excommunicated.

Of course he could be exed for something else, and perhaps already has been. A church really can't excommunicate someone for a crime before it is adjudicated. It would be used by the defense to argue that the jury had been prejudiced by the church's action.



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Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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A church really can't excommunicate someone for a crime before it is adjudicated. It would be used by the defense to argue that the jury had been prejudiced by the church's action.


not relevant in-admissible

Yes relevant, and admissible if widely reported in the news. Though I am not a lawyer, so speak with little authority. Keep grains of salt handy.

Anybody remember when Mark Hofmann was exed? Was it after his trial?

Does anyone seriously think that a Mormon, accused of a crime in Rexburg, ID, for God's sake, and excommunicated for said crime prior to trial, would not be able to appeal a conviction arguing biased jury?

the juries job doesn't include considering after-the-fact mitigation(s).

whether or not an accused has been exd (in a murder case) isn't evidence of culpability for his/her actions.

NOT being a matter of evidence, the jury

a) wouldn't know about whether or not an accused was exd

b) IF it did leak to the jurors, they wouldn't be able to consider it yes/no, up-down.



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Juries are frequently disempaneled, and cases removed to other jurisdictions, for having been exposed to outside sources of information.

I wouldn't say 'frequently', do you have some data to support your statement?

of all these possibilities, I say the most likely to happen

IF there was a jury (not all cases do!),

IF the jury considered him being a member and/or being ex'd ... at least one juror would alert the judge & a mistrial would (might) be granted before a verdict is entered.


first year law school stuff.

> I wouldn't say 'frequently', do you have some data
> to support your statement?

You can simply search the last time we discussed this. I provided links to examples.


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> IF the jury considered him being a member and/or
> being ex'd ... at least one juror would alert the
> judge & a mistrial would (might) be granted before
> a verdict is entered.

No. In the vast majority of cases the exposure to media accounts and other potentially prejudicial bias are uncovered in pretrial motions and jury selection. That is much cheaper financially and in terms of judicial and juror time and energy than aborting a trial midway through.


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> first year law school stuff.

Precisely.

My stmnt referred to cases under consideration by a jury.
I do agree that ideally the voir dire eliminates biased / unqualified jurors.

I'm betting that fewer than 5 % of all cases Nationwide are granted a change of venue.



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ABC news is tonight reporting human remains found on
Chad's property...

I hope Chad & Lori suffer for a long, long time.

What trial? Didn't he plead guilty (after some negotiations about death penalty) and then was immediately sentenced and sent to the big house?

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> If by church response, you mean are they going to
> excommunicate Chad D for the murders, no, IMHO.
> Nor should they. They will express condolences for
> the children, if their remains are found, and let
> the justice system take its course. If Daybell is
> convicted, he then will be excommunicated.
>
> Of course he could be exed for something else, and
> perhaps already has been. A church really can't
> excommunicate someone for a crime before it is
> adjudicated. It would be used by the defense to
> argue that the jury had been prejudiced by the
> church's action.


Moot point. According to mormons all over the internet, Chad Daybell was excommunicated years ago and he and his beliefs have nothing to do with mormonism.

wondering Wrote:
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> I don’t know how to post a link to Rexburg news.
> Using an iPad.
>


https://www.rexburgstandardjournal.com/rexburg/second-search-warrant-served-on-chad-daybells-sugar-salem-home/article_2aaded3a-3600-5e5a-8046-0b69f6a1115b.html

another link:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-remains-found-idaho-home-chad-daybell-husband-cult-mom-lori-vallow



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Thank you for posting it.

Those poor children. Hopefully justice will be served for them at long last.

https://youtu.be/2jvjnIfm00E

"...investigators have recovered what's believed to be human remains that have not been identified at this time..."

Ghawd is testing him!

Should be entertaining for all of us!

...until July 21, when Jesus comes with the get-out-of-jail cards for Chad and his lovely bride, and we all start kissing up to them.

It’s like when God left dinosaur bones everywhere to test our faith. God switched to human remains in modern times. Such a practical joker.

Lol. A diversion -

I remember the dinosaur bones being stored under the football stadium at BYU.

I also remember how many Co-eds were "anti-dinosaur" and said that Satan controlled the Geology Department.
Good Times!

Meanwhile, I'm sickened by this whole thing.

ABC news mentioned Chad's place as (near?) 'Salem', does anyone know if that's Salem OR?

Salem Idaho is north of Rexburg Idaho and just west of Sugar City, Idaho.

thanks, TW, IDK, did Chat & Lori meet because they lived close? I was under the impression he was living somewhere farther away.

He was in Idaho and she was in AZ. From what I gather she was a fan girl of his books and went to one of his loony lectures.

a match MADE IN HELL, no doubt.

I have wondered how people that delusion can even manage to function in the world. Of course, I guess the Daybells are not functioning all that well at the moment.

If that's 'functioning', I want No Part of it;

Kind, Peaceful people probably Never Understand how other people 'think' / made decisions / hurt others, it just doesn't compute.

For destruction or concealment of evidence.

https://www.postregister.com/news/local/chad-daybell-to-appear-in-court-wednesday/article_d6981950-2fdb-5d15-a067-459683df5c09.html

That's a good start. They probably wanted a charge as a basis for which to hold him. I'm sure there will be more to come.

There is an interview on YouTube of the mayor saying it was the children. Then he says oops, he wasn’t supposed to say. The reporter put it on YouTube instead.

So sad. I wonder if Chad made a deal to put it on Lori? I guess time will tell.

It seems to me it would take a really cold person to keep saying the children are safe when you know they are buried in Chads yard. And to make things worse, Chad had his children still living at that house. How utterly cruel and disgusting.

Of course all above is allegedly.

The news was saying tonight that it is two bodies, both children.

I hope that Chad and Lori like their new digs.

In the stores, one commonly sees a sign that reads (something like) 'Shoplifters will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law'...

O how I hope this also applies to Lori & Chad...