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schrodingerscat
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Date: October 16, 2020 03:40PM
Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> > What nature produces is good, on balance.
>
> That is your article of faith. It is not
> logically obvious and you have never been able to
> offer any evidence save a restatement of your
> personal beliefs.
>
The fact that you and I are alive, and life has existed, uninterrupted, for 3.8 Billion years is all the evidence I or any rational person needs to conclude, the obvious, that Nature, on balance, tends towards life.
How is that not obvious to you?
Oh yeah, not rational.
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> > Despite
> > all the destructive forces at work in the
> cosmos,
> > life continues, which is good, in as much as
> life
> > exists and has existed, without interruption,
> for
> > 3.7 billion years. That to me means that nature
> > tends towards life and order, more than it
> tends
> > towards chaos, otherwise the cosmos wouldn't
> exist
> > and there would be only chaos.
>
> What proportion of mass in the universe is
> organized in the form of life? One billionth of a
> percent would be a vast overstatement. So what
> the universe produces is inanimate, dead things.
> Moreover, thermodynamics tells us the universe is
> becoming more disordered over time. You claim the
> universe tends towards life and order; in fact, it
> produces death and disorder.
If it tended more towards death and chaos, than life and cosmos wouldn't exist. Yes it's that simple.
"For every one billion particles of antimatter there were one billion and one particles of matter. And when the mutual annihilation was complete, one billionth remained - and that's our present universe." - Albert Einstein
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> > That's the complete opposite of the reality
> that
> > life exists and has existed uninterrupted over
> the
> > past 3.8 Billion years. If the universe
> preferred
> > death to life, then we'd all be dead, not alive.
>
> > How is that not empirically obvious?
>
> Because it is not empirically true.
>
> You have a hard time dealing with nuance, Scat.
> The truth is that life in the universe doesn't
> even amount to a rounding error. Thermodynamics
> indicates that you can get local organization even
> as the universal trend is towards disorder. What
> you call the core of the cosmos is in fact a 10+
> sigma anomaly in a universe whose underlying
> dynamic is the tendency towards entropy.
Yet life exists, and has existed for 3.8Billion years, despite the all the destructive forces at work. Creative forces outweigh the destructive forces, otherwise there would be no matter.
"When scientists use the word God, they usually mean the God of Order. For example, one of the most important revelations in Einstein’s early childhood took place when he read his first books on science. He immediately realized that most of what he had been taught about religion could not possibly be true. Throughout his career, however, he clung to the belief that a mysterious, divine Order existed in the universe." Michio Kaku
https://bigthink.com/robby-berman/michio-kaku-believes-in-god-if-not-that-godI'm with Michio and Einstein