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Posted by: BoydKKK ( )
Date: October 10, 2021 11:26AM

Joe saw the Angel on the equinox.

What day of the week did Joe actually pick up the plates and outrun he thugs to get home and hide them?

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: October 10, 2021 12:33PM

Are you speaking of the figment of his imagination plates?

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: October 10, 2021 01:33PM

Or maybe the real but fake Kinderhook plates which Smith proclaimed to be " contain the history of the person with whom they were found and he was a descendant of Ham through the loins of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth"?


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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: October 11, 2021 10:21AM

Joseph and Emma stole a wagon in the middle of the night and went to "get the plates".

Joseph the hid the plates in a hollowed out tree.

He did bring the Urim and Thumin home and let his mother "feel them under a cloth".

I don't remember how much time passed before he "retrieved" the plates.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: October 11, 2021 08:00PM

Maybe he was being chased by slugs, not thugs. That’s the only way he would have been able to outrun them while carrying such an awkward load.

Forensic analysis of the BoM shows that it is a synthesis of contemporary thought. Every guess made about the ancients turned out to be wrong. The plate chase you mention is physically impossible. Crossing almost 200 miles of desert in three days, impossible without some Mad Max crossover. Wooden submarines and Jaredite battles, ludicrous. You don't need Golden Plates to account for such obvious hokum.

The BoM is faith-promoting fiction. Mormonism works well enough as long as you don't think. Non-thinking doesn't work in the 21st century.

Actually, that last part is wishful thinking. Every century works for suspension of rational thought because humans don't actually perceive reality. Read Donald Hoffman. So yes, the church's origin story is all lies. Is believing in lies so bad if we're going to do it anyway? That said, once you're red pilled there's no going back.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2021 08:24PM by bradley.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: October 12, 2021 12:48AM

When I first read about the tight like unto a dish submarines and I was about 15 years old I called BS on it. You probably would die from ammonia poisoning from all the piss and shit that would accumulate or certainly die from a disease from unsanitary conditions. What about fresh drinking water? Where was that stored? Also with those things being tossed around and even turned upside down it would be a mess.

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Posted by: a pinch of Splenda ( )
Date: October 12, 2021 11:04AM

Feb 30 according to the personal diary of JS.

Although some church historians and leaders believe it was on Feb 31.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: October 12, 2021 11:13AM

Hahaha ha. Bingo!

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Posted by: sd ( )
Date: October 15, 2021 04:19PM

of never.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: October 15, 2021 04:28PM

your illusion but
no time
no where
no how
did Joe Jr. recieve anything even resembling metal plates

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Posted by: valkyriequeen ( )
Date: October 17, 2021 10:23AM

Whenever JS did get the plates (his mom's dinner plates, maybe?), he couldn't even get the year or his age straight, let alone the day of the week.

You would think he was lying or something...

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