the necessity of recreational application of procreational activity?



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Do you love your mother, daughter, sister in-law, any female friends, etc.?

Of course you can love the opposite sex without the need to have sex.

Sounds like you are confusing love with sexual attraction.

Not gonna lie, Roy, I love sexual attraction.

>> I love sexual attraction. <<

So you're the great attractor? You must inform the great attractors biggest fan.

The question remains Is recreational application of procreational activity an almost mandatory requirement of a relationship



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That's up to the people in the relationship.

Devoted Exmo Wrote:
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> That's up to the people in the relationship.

Absolutely.

If both people are fully informed, and those two people both agree to the limitations, then all is well.

If only one person in the relationship feels this way, and the other person does not fully understand the relationship limitations, that could lead (one way or another) to an end to the relationship--and many, very deeply hurt, feelings.

I think most men will agree that it will comes up, ghawd willing and the curtains are closed.

>> recreational application of procreational activity <<

you could say "sex" you know? And no it isn't an almost mandatory requirement.

I've had plenty of "relationships" with the opposite sex that did require sex.

Question for you....do you think recreational application of procreational activity is an almost mandatory requirement of a relationship?

correction....didn't require sex.

But some others did so there's that.

Roy G Biv Wrote:
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> >> recreational application of procreational
> activity <<
>
> you could say "sex" you know? And no it isn't an
> almost mandatory requirement.
>
> I've had plenty of "relationships" with the
> opposite sex that did require sex.
>
> Question for you....do you think recreational
> application of procreational activity is an almost
> mandatory requirement of a relationship?


I didn't say sex because I said it the way I wanted to

Of course. Why use one syllable when you can crank out nineteen. Pomposity is the new black.

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> Of course. Why use one syllable when you can crank
> out nineteen. Pomposity is the new black.
Yes and I can be a pompose ass from time ot time

Oh I see....I, me, mine. Cool.

I am sad to report that I have loved SEVERAL members of the opposite sex without
them feeling the need to engage in ANY procreation or recreation with me at all.


It was a real bummer.

amen amen amen

I want to see you sing karaoke to Julio Iglesias "To All the Girls I Loved Before".



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you should love everybody, just don't get caught.

Scarlett Johansson, Nicole Kidman, Emma Stone, Sandra Bullock, Audra McDonald.

But they all have security, darn it.

Is it possible to love a member of the same sex without sexual activity?

If your answer is yes, then that is the answer for either gender.

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> Is it possible to love a member of the same sex
> without sexual activity?
>
> If your answer is yes, then that is the answer for
> either gender.

I acknowledge your position but I do believe that is another question to be probed. There are probably many responses to it

BoJ, don't probe where others are treading.

Yes. At least in my case. I have several close female friends whom I love dearly and have been a part of my life for decades. But sex has never come up with us. Sure, there have been a few that I would like to have liked to have seen if there was something more, but the feeling was not the same, and vice versa. Once you set the boundaries and you respect them, yes, I do believe it is quite possible.

I saw "When Harry Met Sally" when it first came out, and it purported to answer the question, can men just be friends with women, and as initially explained by Harry, the answer was no.

But I no longer remember if that was 'your final answer, please ...'

thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> the necessity of recreational application of
> procreational activity?

Yes.

Yes. I loved one female shipmate without wanting to have sex with her. Almost nine years since I last spoke to her, and I still think of her as the closest thing to an older sister I've ever had.

If you're talking about romantic love, then yes. I'm an asexual. I've never been attracted sexually to anyone, but I've been romantically in love a handful of times. I don't even dream about sex.

But the intensity of the romantic feelings I had were very intense compared to the love that I might have for my family or friends. I loved being in that person's company and I missed them very much when they weren't around me. My desire was just to be around them.

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> I loved being in that person's
> company...  My desire was just
> to be around [him].
>


I mean no disrespect, Greyfort, but this is exactly how I feel about myself.  I fear that I am going to miss me very, very much when I'm gone.

Aww. I get that. I kind of like being me too. I don't want to lose me either.

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And for the rest of you erudite ex-Mo's (my most gentlemanly tip of the hat to LW):

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It is true that a lot of us were first exposed to classical music by the good folks at Warner Brothers.

Until the lockdowns, Boston Symphony Hall had a yearly "Kids Classical Cartoon" festival. Various vendors would set up information booths and hand out bling. There would be an "instrument petting zoo" where children could get handle and "play" instruments. Accomplished youth ensembles performed.

But the big thing was the cartoon festival, on the big screen in that acoustically perfect hall: All the Looney Tunes, and more, always ending with "What's Opera, Doc?"

https://tenor.com/view/wagner-bugs-bunny-viking-horse-running-down-gif-16027305

Two can play that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTE9MDoaLs

The obvious answer: Only if you’re gay. That’s why our love is so pure. Like Jesus.

And Peewee Herman

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3183515/

so kinda depends on your definition of 'love' eh -- which leads to that debate/discussion of there being "many kinds" thereof

in otherwise healthy folks "if yer not feeling it yer not feeling it" which has all sorts of implications for the strength of e.g. marital bond. I mean, consider the stages of dissolution -- which undoubtedly ye have witnessed, if not experienced


eh

article focuses on the woman but oxytocin also a factor in the man -- which is why when he doesn't "get any" he quite naturally loses some of that bond. There is more recent data but I got stuff to do

in a nutshell, seems that for romance, sex is the glue that holds the relationship together

I could tell another long story about someone I fell in love with, but he was married and wasn't mormon. I knew his wife, too. She dumped him. He wanted to marry me immediately. I was still a little mormon girl, but I was in the midst of my gay boyfriend mess, so I was really messed up.

His wife eventually decided she wanted him back and who did she ask to talk him into going back to her? And I did.

Never had sex with him. Never even kissed him.

My boyfriend I'm with now I dated in my 20s and I never had sex with him. He is also nonmormon. I had 3 nonmormons ask me to marry them before I got married.

Hell ,I never even French kissed until the bishop assigned my gay boyfriend to French kiss me. I was scared to death of ever having to confess a sexual sin to a bishop and then I found myself in the mess I was in. I learned a lot about sex from the bishop--not from demonstration.

I'm glad I got a second chance to be with one of them. I've been with him for 17 years now.

Love w/o sex? Of course!

Sex drive vs. will/ patience/ control

It depends of what you want, what you've got, what you need, and what they have... and how it goes.

Absolutely. When I first met this guy, I had a major crush on him. I gradually came to realize that he was gay. But we have remained friends for decades because we have a number of interests in common - especially languages and reading.

When he and his partner of 34 years got married, DH and I sent them a beautiful wedding card that became the frontispiece of their wedding album.

The most recent letter I got from my longtime friend said, "We found ourselves a couple of great guys to marry, didn't we?"

Win/win.