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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 02:51PM

Here is the biggest lie I've heard from conference.

"The gospel of Jesus Christ does not change.

Gospel doctrine does not change.

Our personal covenants do not change."

Dallin Oaks at the women's conference.

It amazes me at the outright lies that spew from their mouths.

Almost two centuries of written documented proof of changing doctrine, changing beliefs and changing of the very words of the temple oaths and they have the audacity to say this?

Wake up Oaks! We have not only the written proof you are a bold faced liar but our own experiences to know you are intentionally misleading millions.

I wish I could convince my while family that the church is based on lies.

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 03:14PM

“No amount of evidence is enough to convince a fool of anything.” Mark Twain

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Just be grateful you are one of the rare few, who got your power and freedom back from the charlatan who stole it from you.

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Posted by: heartbroken ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 05:03PM

So what if the gospel of Jesus Christ does not change. Does that mean the Mormon church is true? Is Christ's birth, death and resurrection proof that the Mormon church is true? If it can be proven that God exists, is that proof that the Mormon church is true?

The gospel of Jesus Christ is not the same as Mormon doctrine. Gospel doctrine is not the same as Mormon doctrine. Bruce R. McConkie knew the difference when he wrote his book. The Mormon church claiming that the gospel of Jesus Christ is true is just trying to prove to the world that Mormons are Christians too. It's just more Christian speak in an effort to be less weird Mormon.

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 05:38PM

poster "heartbroken" is right ~



exmos take notice ~

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 05:44PM

God always gets the credit but never the blame.

Christians take notice, ziller.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 06:11PM

in b 4 ~ jesus is the best vaccine ~

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 08:09PM

in b 4 ~ a pillar of salt is right at least once a day ~

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 07:54PM

exmos conflate they ideas of "god" with they ideas of "mormonism" which is the main source of they confusion ~


which was poster's "heartbroken" point ~


in ziller's opionion ~



¬Edited 100 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2022 6:66PM by ziller ~



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2022 07:58PM by ziller.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 08:20PM

in b 4 ~ swallow a camel but strain at a gnat ~

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 10:11PM

with the advent of modern hydraulic technology ~

the passage of a camel through the eye of a needle ~

is now possible ~

however ~

the passage of a pillar of salt through the same ~

proves to be elusive ~

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 11:27PM

"Do NOT pull on that thread."

--Jeffery Holland, quoting innumerable earlier Christian apologists

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Posted by: Maca ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 05:15PM

What annoys me when they say our covenants never change is that in the next sentence they'll say if you don't get the perfect spouse kids or whatever then it'll happen in the next life. It's the biggest cop out they've got, see we're suppose to obey yet God can do whatever he wants? Either God is God of the living or he's not, anytime a blessing doesn't come true they should say go find happiness out of the church because we don't have the answers.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 06:44PM

I always like the expression "God will never give you more than you can bear" and then we find out that people die in the most horrific situations. I'm pretty sure, whatever happened to that person, it was more than they could bear.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 06:08PM

https://youtu.be/awY1MRlMKMc

Pretty much describes the situation.

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Posted by: bobt ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 06:49PM

I call "shenanigans."

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 07:01PM

Heartless Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here is the biggest lie I've heard from
> conference.
>
> "The gospel of Jesus Christ does not change.
>
> Gospel doctrine does not change.
>
> Our personal covenants do not change."
>
> Dallin Oaks at the women's conference.
>
> It amazes me at the outright lies that spew from
> their mouths.

Come on! Every con man needs a litle slack once in a while.

>
> Almost two centuries of written documented proof
> of changing doctrine, changing beliefs and
> changing of the very words of the temple oaths and
> they have the audacity to say this?
>
> Wake up Oaks! We have not only the written proof
> you are a bold faced liar but our own experiences
> to know you are intentionally misleading
> millions.
>
> I wish I could convince my while family that the
> church is based on lies.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: April 03, 2022 11:22PM

This is the second biggest lie. The biggest lie is that they care.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: April 04, 2022 12:15AM

You're right.

That's why I said so far.

His quote was sent to me, I never heard the whole speech.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: April 04, 2022 08:10PM

It would be so satisfying to tell him to his face that he is a lying sack of shite.

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Posted by: lapsed2 ( )
Date: April 05, 2022 10:09AM

“Our personal covenants do not change."
So, I still need to slit my throat, and disembowel myself if I tell anyone what goes on in the temple? HAHAHA! That ship sailed even before I resigned!

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