If I read the conference talks correctly and listen to the talks and lessons at Church I believe this is what Dusty Rusty wants. We are to model our lives after Jesus. We are to become his disciples. We are to become like Him. What's the problem? I want to be me. I want to be the best person I can be. I want to live my life to the best of my abilities. I do not want to become someone else nor do I want to be a clone. Young people are being taught this is school so it conflicts with what they hear at Church.
Now with Rusty's direction on prayer you have to use the proper pronouns. You must demonstrate that you can pray before they will ask you to pray in public (SM, etc.). Well I like my prayers. I like to meditate and pray when outside in the forests. I like to listen to the aboriginals when they pray and talk about the great creator. This may explain why they never ask me to pray in SM when I attend.
This past week I was listening to the teacher in Priesthood meeting giving the lesson. I watched the class. Bored out of their minds. I will be away for 4 months so I endured SM and Priesthood just to make sure I have not missed anything. I have not. Anyways teacher was former Temple President, etc, etc. Grew up in Lethbridge and knows Wendy big time. Can't say enough good things about her and Rusty. He talks about what Jesus said as if they were really said. Then it struck me for the first time in my life. We really do not know what the exact words that Jesus said or the exact things He did. We only have handed down writings and translations. So how can I in good faith become like Jesus when really all we have is some writers saying what Jesus said or did.
I travel a lot and attend Church in various places to see if anything is new. This is my observation. Members are not really friendly to those they do not really know. I am out going and I speak to everyone but if I sit back, few people will speak to me because I am new and visiting. So they hear the message to be Christ like and they do not follow through.
I speak to people because I want to be a good person and I want to brighten their day. Not to be Christ like or I am ministering as required by the Church. Yes how is the Ministering program going?
Conclusion. I believe the average TBM is over saturated with the "Come unto Christ" thing. I think the average TBM knows the Church is in trouble but do not know what to do or how to think about it. The members are falling away even if they attend Church regularly. They are not getting anything to make them a better person inside.
I shaved my head and then quit cutting my hair over 2 years ago during the pandemic. It's now a little past my shoulders. Sometime I look in the mirror and I think that if I grew a beard, I'd look like mormon Jesus (I have blue eyes)
OK. The next time I see a fig tree, I'll curse it.
If mormons really want to be like Jesus, they have to march into the temples and whip the cash register operators.
Oh, and Jesus also publicly called out the ones who nitpicked on rules, made pretentious outward displays of their piety and droned on with overlong prayers — maybe 80% of mormons today. There would barely be anyone left in the church after all that.
That's just Bible Jesus. If they want to be like BOM Jesus instead, they'll be looking at life without parole.
Bible Jesus said our body was a temple and he fulfilled the law. Basically, no need for any temples anymore. The silly shit that goes on in LDS temples never was done in the ancient Hebrew temples. Jesus would look at the Mormons and shake his head.
It’s the church picking up the dropped football and trying to run with it. In the past the church was competing with other Christian church’s. Today many of those church’s are gone or they are losing members. So the LDS Church is hitting the Come Unto Jesus theme hard. I think they are trying to pick up members of other church’s who had their church disappear or reform in a way they no longer accept.
Also 19 century Americanism and the New Jerusalem doesn’t sell like it used to. So Christ is up front now.
I also had a moment recently where it dawned on me that one of the reasons Mormonism never worked for me was because I didn't want to be like God. As imperfect as I am, I just want to be me.
While this isn't true for every Mormon, I think many Mormons think (and it's taught in the church) that doing all the Mormon things like reading scriptures, attending the temple, tithing, keeping the sabbath day holy, etc. is what makes them a good person and helps them become like Christ. Many want to treat others well too, but I don't think this is the primary focus of many Mormons.
Many Mormons don't really see that checking all the Mormon boxes makes for a good Mormon, but that's really about it.
One of the goals of Christianity is to perfect yourself. I got to the point where I no longer saw that as a desirable goal. I think I'm just fine as a normal, imperfect human being. The saying, "The perfect is the enemy of the good" has a lot of truth to it.
Is that a goal of Christianity? It's not one I have heard defined. Christianity I am familiar with teaches that if we could become perfect through our effort we would not need the one the movement is named for in the first place. Perhaps we are defining perfect differently.
In the Catholic church in which I was raised, there was an emphasis on constantly examining the state of your soul. Sins were to be confessed to the priest, with a corresponding atonement, with the goal of ridding yourself of as much sin as possible (in order to make yourself pleasing to God.)
But you are correct, "all people are sinners," so this is always something of an exercise in futility. Hence the need for Jesus.
Mary, around 2,000 years ago, to Jesus Christ's little brother (in a thick Brooklyn accent): "Why can't you become more like Jesus!? He always puts his sandals away and sweeps up in the woodshop at the end of the day when your father is done making rough-hewn tables--and he's a great help in the kitchen, too! Just last week I remembered 'Oh, it's Friday!', and I only had one fish....so what's Jesus do? He makes more! Oh! And that time you accidentally killed your cousin Morris?? Oi! What a mess! But who brought him back from the dead? Your brother Jesus, that's who! So, please, become more like Jesus...oh, and your Uncle Flavin is coming over for dinner, be a mensch and wash his feet this time, OK, because, you know--that's what Jesus would do."
I read recently that Jesus was actually supposed to be named Brian, but when Mary went to the local government office to register the birth, just as the clerk asked for the newborn’s name, she stubbed her toe.
Jesus is reported to have willingly cured lepers. TSCC has more than enough money to cure leprosy worldwide! They could eradicate leprosy and have money left over. But they'd have to put their money where their mouth is. They don't really want to be like Jesus.
This had me laughing uncontrollably in my recliner.
It shows the mental state of the profit.
Act more like Jesus in the Bible .ok. Now Jesus never asked for money nor did his disciples. Jesus didn’t live in mansions, high rises,or homes more expensive than his followers. Jesus didn’t support the rich, famous, or money mongers.
He hung around with the poor, ill, and downtrodden. He gave hope to them.
Now this is just my humble opinion.
So if the profit wants everyone to do what Jesus did they would abandon those expensive houses, not give tithing, and minister to the poor, prostitutes, and drug users. This would mean the profit and his helpers would need to follow that too.
But alas it is just a hypocrite giving lip service to hypocrites. I believe hypocrite is used quite often in the Bible.
This is also correct to other Christian churches that are led by jet flying, mansion living leaders.
TSCC would crumble if they followed his advice. But then if they stop paying tithing they could always say they were following the profit.
I agree with Gordon B Stinky. Mother Theresa spent her life acting just like Jesus but all the Christian churches I have talked to say she went to hell. Bet that pleased their god.
I don’t know about that. He got gold, frankincense and myrrh for Christmas, and got anointed with some pretty high-priced oil as I recall. He was a Jeopardy! contestant with the smart guys at the temple. He was on a first name basis with the Roman governor, though that meeting could have gone better.
And he managed to rent a big room for a catered meal for his last Passover Seder. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a reservation for thirteen that night? You gotta have connections to score a room that big.
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He had to get the longer table because 13 backs in the painting's foreground wouldn't be as artistic.