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Posted by: evergreen ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 03:42PM

I did not realize that in the 1990s the requirement in wedding vows for wives to state they will obey their husbands was removed. I was married before the removal so I had to abide by the covenant to obey my husband. I am confused. Do I still need to obey my husband?

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Posted by: cheezus ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 03:59PM

Heavy on the sarcasm here and I'm thinking it is funny to apply a statement/idea we often hear on another topic:

....do you you want net blessings or gross blessings?

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Posted by: skp ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 04:31PM

Well, since receiving net blessings would mean I'll have blessings left over after expenses are covered, and receiving gross blessings could leave me in the red after expenses, I think I'll go with "net blessings".

Plus, gross blessings sound so... gross...

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Posted by: cheezus ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 04:36PM

but maybe it is really groß?

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Posted by: skp ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 04:34PM

Only inasmuch as he obeys the Lord, right? So all you have to do is get yourself one of those warm, fuzzy feelings about what you want to do, and you can tell your hubby to shove it! ;)

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 04:44PM

Did you ever? :D

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 05:10PM

short answer = 'yes' ~



now go make some sandwiches ~

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 05:41PM

    
    
                Is this about your allowance?

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 05:52PM

If it's a kink for you, probably.

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 07:42PM

do I still have to obey him? Not on your life. We get along a lot better as a non-couple. I refuse to obey a man or anyone except maybe my boss, but none of them are bossy. I never see my bosses now.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 08:05PM

My Catholic wife obeying me...hehe...what a concept! More like f*** you!

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Posted by: wondering ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 11:03PM

Not really. The obey word was in there to make the men feel better. In reality they had to obey!

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 11:38PM

It's a bait and switch. In reality, if the man doesn't toe the line his wife can sic his church leaders on him.

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Posted by: Finance Clerk ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 11:25PM

Since the death oaths were removed, is my life still in jeopardy if I reveal the secrets of the temple. It sounded like a pretty serious promise at the time. You think if we were let off the hook with these, they tell us.

And it's not fair that our kids aren't obliged at the same level (threat to our lives) as we were. What's up with that?

I am so ... in limbo? Help.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 17, 2022 11:34PM

this is 'undeniably' a change in the posture of ChurchCo;

some fundys will also say this is an ungodly compromise.

was there any blowback published on this or other 'endowment' changes?

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Posted by: CrispingPin ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 12:01AM

You did promise in front of “God, angels, and these witnesses.”

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Posted by: Evergreennotloggedin ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 12:11AM

Yes but I believe all the witnesses are now dead and I have never seen God and/or angels with either my actual or spiritual eyes.

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Posted by: Dallin Ox ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 12:36AM

Depends on the order.

"In the name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and by the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood which I hold, and in the presence of the unseen hosts of heaven which I call as witnesses, I raise my arm to the square and command you to consume entirely this extra-large slice of cheesecake with strawberry swirls, that it may strengthen and nourish your body."

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Posted by: moehoward ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 04:13AM

You mean that this whole time my wife had to obey me?

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 07:57AM

Yes. And the tooth fairy is demanding a refund now that you no longer believe.

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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 11:41AM

I don't remember all the words at my wedding, and I do know that I didn't sign anything that specifically stated the wedding vows.

So if it isn't in writing and I didn't sign it, then I can't be held responsible.

My word against the word of the witnesses.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 12:54PM

A vert good Friend of mine suggests that couples should alternate ‘who is in charge’ for short-term items e-verk weekend, I think thats a Great plan.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2022 12:56PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 01:02PM

Is this the same as being on top?

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 01:36PM

Whatever miget that be ???

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 18, 2022 04:49PM

GNPE Wrote:
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> Whatever miget that be ???

...I prefer 'little person'.

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