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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 02:41PM

From the "Reproduction can be fun" part of life comes this attack on humanity's Ghawd-given Right to be made horny!  (He's also got Utah's leading MLMs competing to create an anti-horny supplement based on the assumption that lower libido will increase both church attendance and tithing. [also, he wants to ban words like *ass*umption and *tit*ulate, for obvious do-gooder reasons])

Here's the current "Miller Test" (please confuse it with *Miller Time!*):

"The Miller test was developed in the 1973 case Miller v. California.  It has three parts:

1)  Whether the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest;

2)  Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law;

3)  Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test


"Lee's proposed redefinition of *obscenity* would eliminate Miller Test references to 'contemporary community standards' and 'applicable state law,' instead defining obscene content as any material that:

i)  taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest in nudity, sex, or excretion,

ii)  depicts, describes, or represents actual or simulated sexual acts with the objective intent to arouse, titillate, or gratify the sexual desires of a person, and,

iii)  taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.”

https://www.xbiz.com/news/270761/utah-republican-senator-mike-lee-introduces-bill-to-outlaw-all-porn-nationwide


I think most of us can see that this is merely a ploy to increase the cost of porn; no longer will it come free with any connection to the internet.


What are your thoughts when you're watching porn... I mean, what are your thoughts about porn...?  Will there be life after porn?

I want to assume that there is titillation in the Celestial Kingdom, even though we all know how it ends.  

Do Elohim's toes still curl and do the foundations of heaven shake when he climaxes, or is he just phoning it in now?  Do any of his wives get together to remember the good times?


In that last test of Mike's, "...taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value...", every single verb and noun has very flexible meaning!  

I believe it must be admitted that there are those in this degenerate nation who VALUE porn!  How big must this minority (or majority!) be to have their values accepted?


Vote Yes on Porn to keep America humming and thrumming!  Vote early and vote often!!







(Created using HarpoMarx & silly putty; if you are in Utah County, please turn off your computer and unplug your whatcha macallit before closing this window.)

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 03:36PM

Based on that definition, the cluster**** that is Mike Lee would qualify as porn. That’d be an upside.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 04:28PM


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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 05:13PM

Yes, he's putting on a show for his constituents.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 10:17PM

Agreed on that one my friend!

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 05:00PM

So does this mean we should start the countdown now and place bets for when he gets caught in the Notell Motel.

There seems to be a pattern emerging . . .

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 06:35PM

Bingo.
Funny how the people squealing about improper sexual practices often end up being the ones with breaking scandals.
More and more we are seeing that their judgments turn out to be confessions.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 05:13PM

I think that Mr. Lee, like many of our friends in the GOP, finds himself in the middle of a stream looking for a new horse to change to.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 06:36PM

Yep. Pay no attention to that other stuff I was doing!

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 06:41PM

Yeah, Captain Moroni turned out to be Gadianton. Time to set off some fireworks as a distraction, and sneak out the back door. Apparently a number of senators are trying to hop on the same cart. Could get crowded.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 07:21PM

Mike Lee has always ridden the short bus. What will be more interesting is to see how many of the con man's other victims prove willing to admit what happened.

I'm not optimistic. Once a person has been conned in a costly and public way, there's a tendency to defend the grift rather than condemn the grifter. That's one of the secrets of Mormonism's long survival.

It also plays a role in Ron DeSantis's attempt to steal the crown. The king is dead, long live the king.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 12:15AM

Nah, not dead. Just selling bad $99 imaginary trading cards.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 12:19AM

Do you have the full set yet, Susan?

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 01:38AM

That will happen right after NG is declared Queen of Canada.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 01:48AM

Really? I'd have thought the Village People set would have fit in nicely with your other collectibles.

Frankly I'm going to wait to pick them up at Goodwill.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 03:40AM

I believe that the porn industry is ‘the elephant in the room’ but… do they directly lobby legislators & regulators?

That wouldn’t be pleasant for a lawmaker to be known as accepting $ or gifts from pornsters, would it ?

It must be that the porn industry is in the high $ Millions if not in a Billion or more world-wide.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/17/2022 03:42AM by GNPE.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 04:20AM

For $99 I could get several more tiaras!

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Posted by: L.A. Exmo ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 03:04AM

Can't happen. Canada already has a queen.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/23/queen-of-canada-qanon-rise-conspiracy-alarm

https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-queen-of-canada-romana-didulo-wants-some-american-subjects


And this is the most recent article I could locate, from 9 days ago. This may be the most insane one yet. Thought you've heard it all? Not even close:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pjwj/qanon-queen-of-canada-romana-didulo-king-feud

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 04:24AM

Nah, NG is as legit and looks much better in a crown. Good lord, a real Queen would never wear a beanie!

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 10:24PM

Susan I/S Wrote:
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> That will happen right after NG is declared Queen
> of Canada.

Yeah, the Twelfth of Never.

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 08:41PM

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> I think that Mr. Lee, like many of our friends in
> the GOP, finds himself in the middle of a stream
> looking for a new horse to change to.

So for some reason I felt compelled to look up the origin of the phrase about horses and streams.

Interestingly, some sources attribute it to that other American politician: Abraham Lincoln.


Definition from Phrase Finder: “Don't change your leader or your basic position when part-way through a campaign or a project.”

This seems to be the most common understanding and usage of this advice.


Merriam-Webster defines it: “to choose a different leader or policy during a time when serious problems are being dealt with”.

In this case, it would seem to be quite a good idea to do the switch, exactly the opposite of its usage above.


Interestingly, it's used far more often in the sense of being cautious about switching than it is to indicate that switching is a good idea.


Origin of the phrase (from Phrase Finder):

“From an 1864 speech by Abraham Lincoln, in reply to Delegation from the National Union League who were urging him to be their presidential candidate. 'An old Dutch farmer, who remarked to a companion once that it was not best to swap horses when crossing streams.’”


From “word histories”:

https://wordhistories.net/2017/08/16/swap-horses-midstream/

“the earliest occurrence of to swap horses while crossing a stream [is] from The Pittsburgh Post (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) – 25th September 1863" (re Lincoln and govt business).

I’m not clear on whether this account meant it was verbatim from Lincoln – I think perhaps not.


Definition from “word histories” site:

“The phrase to change, or swap, horses in midstream, or while crossing a stream, means to change one’s ideas, plans, etc., in the middle of a project, progress, etc.”

“The locus classicus is a speech by the American Republican statesman Abraham Lincoln (1809-65), sixteenth president of the United States (1861-65), assassinated shortly after the end of the American Civil War (1861-65); on 9th June 1864, he explained to a delegation from the National Union League that his renomination for President was due less to his own abilities than to the fact that his fellow Republicans did not want to take the risk of nominating a different candidate during the war.”


Lincoln’s speech (in part):

“[I] do not allow myself to suppose that either the Convention or the League have concluded to decide that I am either the greatest or best man in America, but rather they have concluded that it is not best to swap horses while crossing the river, and have further concluded that I am not so poor a horse that they might not make a botch of it in trying to swap. [Laughter and applause.]”


This was a fun diversion. Thanks for the inspiration.

In looking it up I also discovered that Mr. Lincoln kept goats at the White House. All righty then.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 12:16AM

Here is one for you NG. I have always liked it :)

You can't ride two horses with one ass!

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 01:51AM

>You can't ride two horses with one ass!

Oh, yeah?

As far as I can tell, there folks each only have one ass, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrraGF-iHhQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAN4JV3kZZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4rhf3_zaKQ

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 02:28AM

They are special and practice a lot!

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 02:45PM

Changing horses in midstream is a bad idea because it is difficult to do. Mike Lee is not doing this because it looks like a good idea. It is an act of desperation. TFG is sounding increasingly unhinged. Captain Moroni is not holding up well.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 03:03PM

Mike Lee is a trivial representation of a larger and more important phenomenon: the fracture in the GOP and its search for its identity.

Is the Republican Party a conservative political organization or the cult of a single man with--literally--no policy agenda? A lot depends on that question, including in the short run the possibility that one of the two great US parties collapses and chaos ensues as well as, in the longer term, whether the country returns to a normal democratic pattern with a responsible conservative movement.

The US needs a viable conservative party, one that respects the constitution and seeks to "conserve" the greatest achievements of the past. And more importantly, voters need a choice at the polls. I, for one, hope the GOP succeeds in moving beyond its recent bout of pyrrhic nihilism and resumes playing a positive republican and democratic role.

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Posted by: BoydKKK ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 07:10PM

US Prez Richard Nixon(the Big Dick) ordered a Study started by Prez Lyndon Johnson to be destroyed.
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The Commission's report, called Report of the Commission on Obscenity and Pornography,and published in 1970, recommended sex education, funding of research into the effects of pornography and restriction of children's access to pornography, and recommended against any restrictions for adults. On balance the report found that obscenity and pornography were not important social problems, that there was no evidence that exposure to such material was harmful to individuals, and that current legal and policy initiatives were more likely to create problems than solve them.

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Some fine Government souls preserved some copies and let them get out.

Pornography is OK in Utah. Remember that Utah County prosecution of a Video Rental Store for having Adult movies - and it was found they were "Community Standards" OK since the Provo Marriott had the same movie in question as a room rental? Yep - beaten at the time because a fellow Mormon businessman could not turn down Porn Dollars.

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Posted by: auntsukey ( )
Date: December 16, 2022 07:12PM

Jesus says that in heaven "there will be no marriage nor given of marriage" Matthew 22:30.

I think that means it will be a free-for-all.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 03:53AM

Freedom is allowing others to do what U don’t approve, whether it’s Pride Parades, nudism, Drag Shows, smoking weed, or watching porn or reading TRAINS magazine…

I believe I’m more in favor that the UBER Christian rightists are, not even close, but the irony of it all escapes ‘ Freedom Fighters, Proud Boys, Aryan Nations, Oath Keepers, kkk & others

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 01:57PM

"also got Utah's leading MLMs competing to create an anti-horny supplement"

I keep a folder of photos of high-level Relief Society leaders around for just such an emergency. They will kill even the most persistent boner.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 05:05PM

photos needed for documentation, bradley---


On Second Thought, please disregard my above post, PLEASE DISREGARD!!!

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Posted by: rubicon ( )
Date: December 17, 2022 10:19PM

its been tried before but the first amendment protects porn. mike knows he's pissing up a rope but this sort of thing gives him points with his voting base.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 01:41PM

What is pornography ?

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 01:42PM

Thankfully Mike Lee is ready to look at it and let us know!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 02:33PM

Dave the Atheist Wrote:
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> What is pornography?



Unlike Green Stamps, pornography (played on a pornograph) is reported to have no redeeming value.

Thus, the money porno-makers are making is fictitious!  So people with Christian values don't make porno for the money, they make it 'cause they're porny.  (I hate myself for that one...)

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 03:08PM

let.it.Rest., eod

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 03:30PM

It does rest. But only for a few hours.

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Posted by: devoted ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 05:26PM

Hm....Doesn't Mike Lee realize just how popular porn is in Utah?

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 10:22PM

that's Why he wants the 'community standards" part removed !!!

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: December 20, 2022 06:30PM

Mike Lee, A Christmas Story, and the Book of Mormon musical

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/bagley/2022/12/19/bagley-cartoon-mike-lee-musical/

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