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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: April 26, 2023 07:56PM

I would have been shocked to hear this as a believer and now it is non-apologetic source.

Duh, didn't you know?

https://www.ldsliving.com/how-the-translation-of-the-gold-plates-took-place/s/11461

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: April 26, 2023 09:08PM

ChuchCo says they have the seer-stone, Yes ?
If only Russ has a hat...

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 26, 2023 09:11PM

Must The Hat be of a certain lineage?  May The Cat be in The Hat?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 26, 2023 09:24PM

> May The Cat be in The Hat?

Now that is a Greatly Attractive proposition!

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Posted by: I ( )
Date: May 02, 2023 02:16AM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> Must The Hat be of a certain lineage?  May The
> Cat be in The Hat?


The Cat can be in the Hat, BUT,
The a Cat mustn't get out of the Bag!

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Posted by: Shinehah ( )
Date: April 27, 2023 08:25PM

Like most church members and maybe even you,

I was taught that Joe translating from gold plates was true.

But today if you don't know it was done by reading a rock in hat,

It's your own darn fault you didn't know that!

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: April 28, 2023 11:55AM

That article was absolutely ridiculous. They have zero credibility. I especially laughed about needing "ambient" light to see the words appear on the stone, because you gotta have the lighting just right for smoke and mirror situations.

Remember, using a hat as a prop was for the stones, not crib notes.

I also liked how the plates "were not hidden" but were left out on the table with a linen over them. But (surprise!) no one bothered to look.

People have to be very naïve to believe this kind of stuff. It shows they are willing to be fleeced.

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Posted by: blackcoatsdaughter ( )
Date: April 28, 2023 03:01PM

I like that. Ambient light for the smoke and mirrors. Who knows what you mighta saw in the flicker of a candle flame.

In middle school, us gals had a game, gave us an excuse to touch the hands of people we liked. Have someone hold their hands out palm down, puppy dog pose. Then you smack first one, then the other, trying to make it an even exertion.

"Which one hurt most?" you ask the prettiest girl in your friend group.

She indicates which one stung the most from your smacking. You take that hand, flip it over, and with your pointer finger, you stroke down the length of each finger, one by one, until all 5 have been done.

"Which one tickled most?" you ask her.

If you're lucky, she will sometimes ask you to do it over. Then, whichever finger she indicates, you grasp it in your hand, looking deeply into the skin of the fingerprint pad at the tip of the finger.

"Think of a number 1 through 5(or 10, if you're a bold guesser). Don't tell me what it is."

In stroking and stretching the skin on the fingertip, sometimes the veins or blood vessels under the skin will form vague shapes and lines. It can kinda look like a number. You get two guesses to get it right(3 if you had them think up to 10).

If you can guess it consistently enough, you can impress the girl you like by making her think you can read minds.

...it is uncanny that the hint about candlelight enabling better tricky business made me think of this silly game from my pre-teens. ^^;;

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 28, 2023 03:18PM

Oh, yeah!  The boys would play this game in the showers at the end of gym class!!

The coaches were all the time having to chase us out by turning off the line from the hot water tanks...

Kids...

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 28, 2023 04:21PM

Is that a rabbit in your hat or are you just happy. . .

Nevermind.

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Posted by: blackcoatsdaughter ( )
Date: April 28, 2023 05:36PM

It was more innocent than that EOD! XD

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: April 28, 2023 03:32PM

Wow. This is quite the admission. I am surprised this was published. For the exmos interested in Mormon minutia, which really isn't minutia when compared to what we were taught as active Mormons years ago. This is a good read.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: April 29, 2023 10:46AM

I specifically remember the posters we used as miss for open houses-

Joe sitting at a table with the plates in front of him & a scribe other side of a curtain / cloth.

the 'magic specticals' nearby.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: April 30, 2023 12:41PM

I never say the plates depicted as covered during translation.

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