My oldest daughter, who is 47 and had never been married, married a lovable divorced LDS guy in his early fifties. His parents just drove from Utah to Washington to visit, and, although we had met them once at the wedding, we were invited over to all have dinner together. All I knew in advance was that she was the stronger one in the marriage, and was extremely outspoken, far right-wing, and believed in "a lot of notions." I was instructed not to react to politics, and to not challenge any of her notions.

In spite of not knowing us, sheit into politics, starting with immigration. Our Current President "loves" people who enter the states illegally, even though she believed them all to be criminals and rapists. But, she also clicked her tongue about Rusty Nails, who said -- according to her -- to be kind to the immigrants because "they are of the 'House of Israel.'" I was like, whaaaa'? Da f*ck you say! She continued on all evening with batshit crazy and unbelievable Mormon stuff that she obviously had misinterpreted and digested. Her short term memory is beginning to fade, and she asked some four or five times, "Did you know we went on a mission to Haiti?"

But the weird thing was , "...and we know that we didn't put a man on the moon "because of its ring. It was all a hoax." I had to intervene. I said there was no ring around the moon." She went on about it taking special equipment to identify the ring, which was made up of the most microscopic particles not seen with the eyes. She said that it's a force field that prevents objects from landing there. Hence, all countries that tried were never able to land any objects, even un-manned ones, like equipment or anything else on the moon. She heard this astounding info from someone she knows and trusts.

I just kept saying in a calm and respectful way that she has believed incorrect information. I also used the explanation that the moon is pock-marked with craters that frequently hit because there is no atmosphere, and they don't encounter any force field. My daughter and her husband were looking down and remained unresponsive. But I heard about it later, having contradicted her several times.

But I can't tolerate stupid. Just can't.

I had a similar situation with my ex-TBM wife when she proclaimed, Sandy Hook never happened. She had crossed the line and I let her know. My children soon jumped in and started giving it to her worse than me.

People that say absurd things and if you don't respond they keep upping the ante until they get a response. I can ignore most of the BS but Sandy Hook crosses the line.

Hate to say this cuz I like you so much, cludgie, but . . .

So the daughter wants you to keep your mouth shut and just take it but gives free rein to her mother-in-law to blabber all she wants?

No one should ask anyone to tolerate another person's rude ignorance. If that is necessary, why even bother with the dinner? It's like eating an ice cream with a roach in it.

. . . on the other hand I should be more like EOD and just enjoy the great stories from the evening and laugh about it all.

And the poor daughter is stuck with her.

If I'd been there, I would have turned my phone recorder on, agreed with everything she said, and eagerly asked for more!

Then I'd send both a transcript and the voice recording to everyone I could, and say it was from my dinner with Gladys Lot.

Dinner??? It was lunch--in a public place with plenty of witnesses!

How does her husband respond to her? Or has he just been beaten down over the years?

Maybe asking questions would be the better approach. Instead of telling her about the meteorites that have hit the moon, ask her how the moon got so pockmarked compared to the Earth. She might tell a very entertaining story about it! Or ask her about the Moon Quakers. Or Kolob. lol

But but but...
The Osmonds recorded music on their 'KOLOB' label, therefore it Must be True !!!

"I was instructed… to not challenge any of her notions."

That's unacceptable. She doesn't get to give "instructions" to you. Speaking only for myself, I could/would never have agreed to those conditions – and if that means I don't ever meet or sit down with them, then so be it.


"which was made up of the most microscopic particles not seen with the eyes"

Everything is made up of those particles. They're called atoms.

BoJ once told me that the smallest constituents of matter were not atoms but "quirks."

I'm pretty sure I heard him correctly.

I've been told that I have lots and lots of quirks, so there's that.

And that's why you matter, summer!

I'll try to stop staring at her bosons.

Maybe they were Quakes and Quisps.

OK, fine. I'll concede the point. But either way, the "microscopic particles" are hardly a mystery. The moon and its "force field" would be made of the same particles.

It's also possible that they're not the most fundamental particles either. We simply don't yet have the ability to break them down any further. I think it requires more energy than we can bring to bear IIRC. If I'm wrong someone correct me.

Some quirks are charming.

Very true. I like to think that some of my quirks are charming!

I heard him say it nearly 30 years ago, long before I knew or understood that some Mormons can't accept it because it would throw their favorite LDS prophet under the bus. I learned about it here at RfM that these ding dongs believe the moon hoax.

And this guy was an educated professor, so this is not some backwoods varmint. I think it went over the heads of my parents.

But then this same guy stated that the Vietnam conflict was also faked. That got my dad riled up as he personally worked on fighter jets during the conflict that were riddled with artillery damage and missing wings, tails and cockpits depending on the severity of war inflicted damage.

Then how the hell did those 6 foot tall Quakers get to the moon? Answer me that!

Exactly!

Obviously, they installed the force field AFTER they arrived! ;)

As we all know, people believe crazy shit and no well-reasoned argument can dissuade them from this insanity. It's why we have religion, dontcha know?

It takes a lot of work and effort in this day and age to be that willfully ignorant.

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> It takes a lot of work and effort in this day and
> age to be that willfully ignorant.

No. It only takes which cable television network you decide to watch.

You can't fix stupid but duct tape can muffle it.

Joseph Fielding Smith stated that god would not allow man to pollute a celestial sphere.

Hence....it is impossible for any man made object to land on any celestial object including Mars, Venus and Titan or was it Triton?

The prophet spoke, hence the thinking is done.

Next time, just tell her that we can't visit the moon because we can't break through the firmament.

I had an LDS friend back in the day who was convinced the moon landing was a hoax because JFS yada yada. His head pretty much exploded when Spencer W Kimball congratulated, in GC Priesthood Meeting no less, the astronauts who landed on the moon.

Did you hear the Thanks to SWK from the astronauts for the congrats?

neither did I

Hahaha! I was just wondering if any astronauts were even there! I’ll assume now that the answer is “no.”

Actually an LDS astronaut was there, and spoke briefly. I don’t recall his name now.



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And what about all those old time Patriarchal Blessings that promised the blessee that they would preach the gospel to people on the moon?

It will all be worked out in the millennium.

Relax, everyone:

the Real ForceField surrounds EvanChristian Fundys, kinda like Mormons living in their Bubble...


just sayin'



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That might be the mechanism for how they get raptured?

Maybe the force field only stops some, the way vampires can’t enter a home w/o permission, or JS couldn’t reach the plates until he was worthy, or how unworthy mormons can’t enter the temple… Uh… hey, maybe we can sell people special access permits to pass the force field! How does 10% of their income sound?

How does one become so nuts?

I think that she may have heard something about humans not being able to live going thru the Van Allen radiation belts. And got it mixed up with a force field. I've heard that theory before..