It's in the comic strip "Wondermark" by David Malki.

>> I'm a maltheist. I believe God exists, and that he hates us. I believe that everything bad is caused by a deity who wishes only to cause us pain, and everything good is either luck or our own doing. I believe that life is cruel and unfair on purpose, and so it's our duty to fight and make things better for ourselves and for others... Maltheism is only for people who can be energized by the thought that even waking up in the morning is a victorious act of rebellion against a bully... I don't know that I really believe that God is cruel. It's a thought experiment. It's just that positing that he is makes the world make sense to me. <<

Makes far more sense than an all-loving deity.

but hate gawd, because he was mean to us so we think he is mean overall. BOO HOO! They do no comprehend that atheists do not believe there is one or that the odds make it unlikely there is one.

I like this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theism

A lot of xstians do not know what they really believe.



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Except, I've run into a few younger atheists that act just like that. It's embarrassing, to say the least.

Most Christians, I think, are maltheists, since the description of the god they claim to worship sounds just like an abusive parent.

See my article "God: An Abusive Parent" at http://packham.n4m.org/abuse.htm

...isn't it that he arranged for his perfect son, which is actually himself in disguise, to be tortured to (temporary) death so we will feel so bad he had to do that in order to forgive us for our wretchedness (which is the way he made us)?

"Daddy needs to kill himself now because you've all been so bad."



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This is the problem I had with Christianity - that they believe that God & Jesus are the same. As a kid, I thought that wasn't fair to Jesus. I didn't believe that the church was true at all, & was (& still am) agnostic when it comes to god & all gods in general. However, I was still clinging to the idea of Jesus as a person. And to hear people say that God & Jesus were the same made me angry.

Johnny did something bad and teacher wants to thrash him. His buddy, Bobby, jumps in and says "No, thrash me instead." So teacher thrashes Bobby instead.

Where exactly is the justice in that? If Johnny owed teacher money and Bobby paid, then at least there would be financial justice toward the teacher. But instead it makes teacher (the God figure in the allegory) look like a sadistic bastard out to beat somebody, anybody!

The Atonement: a pecuniary solution applied to a moral problem. It's like some cut themselves and is bleeding so you give them a hug. Nice solution, but for a different problem.

You can thank Thomas Paine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine for pointing this out.

So theists (at least the judeo-christian kind) believe the devil is the source of everything bad.

Maltheists believe god is the source of everything bad.

I believe shit happens. So am I a shitheist? Or maybe just a shithist?

Elwood Wrote:
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> So theists (at least the judeo-christian kind)
> believe the devil is the source of everything bad.
>
>
> Maltheists believe god is the source of everything
> bad.
>
> I believe @#$%& happens. So am I a shitheist? Or
> maybe just a shithist?

That would be a "Deficologist"

Or would that be someone with sh!t for brains?

Hmm, reminds me of this a7x song. WARNING LANGUAGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zlh-xYA_k

Here are the lyrics for any who can't listen

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"God Hates Us"

Total nightmare!
Total nightmare!

You wanna hear my side?
You need to drown to know.
With all the times it hurt me to fuck you,
I built a wall with your blood to show!

God save us!
God save us all!
God hates us!
God hates us all!

Total nightmare!
Total nightmare!

Nothing to heal.
No one to break.
Pills had a role now there's nothing to take.
Nothing to trust.
No one to fake.
You'll find out sooner that it's best if we just know our place
(Lies!)

My infiltrated mind.
My lacerated soul.
It took me years, create me, control you.
I left myself for an idea I stole

God save us!
God save us all!
God hates us!
God hates us all!

Total nightmare!
Total nightmare!

Liar rape kill, love hate fear

You better take your time
(Liar rape kill)
You better take it slow
Cause when you seek the one
(Love hate fear)
There's nothing left to show.

Total nightmare!
Total nightmare!
Total nightmare!
Total nightmare!

I believe in a God who is 100% malevolent but only 80% effective.

RFM has the best theological jokes around!

If life were either wholly good or wholly evil, then theist/maltheist makes sense. But it isn't. It's a mixture that arose out of the competition of survival and selection in the environment. As so many of you point out, there's no need to conjure a god to explain it.

However, in this mixture, a god that might explain it would be most like Loki or Kokopelli, gods of mischief.

According to mormon myth, satan had a plan to get everyone back with no pain, we would simply come, get our body, do our time, and then continue on the eternal path of happiness.

Jesus wanted to get the glory for "saving" us, while letting us get murdered, raped, starved, tortured, and any number of other unsettling things, just so we can have "agency" to choose a single, poorly defined, hard to understand and constantly changing "path" to happiness.

Following the myth, if the winners write the history, god and jesus have spent the last 6000 years justifying why they had the right plan when it is obvious to any that satan had the most loving of the 2 plans.

So mormons are maltheist's, as are all xtians, some muslims, and any religion that requires self pain or deprivation.

Let the hedonists rise up!

;)



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His Mr. Deity is inept, unenlightened, dishonest and narcissistic.