Date: November 07, 2012 02:02PM
I don't vote, left the church at 15. Found this message board when my children were growing up around Mormons, to protect them from being sucked in.
My parents didn't terrorize me about church. Still don't. But since that is the religion my father chose at 16, it is waht my family is.
My siblings have been more dividing about it. My kids have freedom of thought and don't want it to spread to there's.
But my relationship with my parents is good, we respect each other's beliefs.
I was taught it is rude to ask people how they voted, how much money they make, things like that. And was not taught any kind of class envy, just work on yourself and do your best. But watched my parents go out of there way to help any one that needed it no matter what. Even to the point of undermining there own needs. My DH always has said your parents are Mormons, just good people who belong to that church. So possibly my experience is rare.
Politics tends to remind me of organized relgion. Take alot of your money and the citizens dont hold them accoutable. So much talk on here about the church putting out finacial reports. Why don't citizens ask for the same.
So i suppose alot of folks here have issues with seeing a man who reminds them of a church leader who they felt victimized by. That I can understand I have PTSD from an abusive marriage in my 20's.
Just in general hope we as exx-mormons can continue to help those daring to jump into the real world. I don;t however feel it is my job to try to get people to leave there beliefs.
Best thing about today. People might stop babbling about it everywhere. But's that just me.
Date: November 07, 2012 02:55PM
It's party politics in particular that is not allowed here. I used to deeply regret that too, as I am so interested in that and also see that most things do relate to Mormonism, if only as useful parallels and metaphors.
But. Sus I/S explained that discussing politics inevitably leads to arguments and bad feelings and tends to take over as the preeminent topic of discussion, drowning out other issues. That type of discussion, she said, has other boards where you can specifically discuss politics ad infinitum. Here, the emphasis is on "recovery". It doesn't help that goal if posters tangle with each other over party politics and bad feelings ensue.
There is some leeway - if a political issue directly relates to Mormonism (like Prop 8) and the person who starts a thread relates their post directly to the Mormon Church, it's allowed. You have to get the slant right, though - a direct tie-in with the church - or else your thread will get nuked. This is why you see some threads about, say, Prop 8, stay and some disappear - if the latter was too directly political and not sufficiently and directly related to Mormonism.
It's a fine line and a tough one to see and follow sometimes but there is method in the madness, as they say. After all these years, Sus et al know how the board works best. I've seen that on every issue I've queried Sus about, in particular the injunction against political discussion, I end up seeing that her way works out for the best, for the good of the board and all who post on her. :)
Date: November 07, 2012 02:45PM
> The original post sounds like a passive-aggressive
> way of telling people to shut up about Romney. If
> you think it shouldn't be here, report it. If you
> report it and they leave it up, it must be OK. You
> don't need to start yet another thread about what
> people should and shouldn't talk about - but I
> won't tell you not to. :)
I don;t care what people talk about anywhere. I know how to click the X in the corner, turn off the TV.
My oldest is Bi, middle drug addict,(voted for O), youngest intellectual atheist. College graduate going for masters.
What I did teach them all was how to think not what. And that it is not my journey on this planet it is there's. Mine is my own. But I am willing to get out of the way as an aging boomer and let them have there time in the sun.
I was raised with nothing as was my DH. He is brilliant with numbers and we have a good life. In my opinion it's not my business what others have.
I am always happy when election day is over. No matter who is running.
My post was intended to say thanks to the mods and hope they can get some free time back now.
One of my biggest issues is holding back what I think. Not trying to say soemthing without saying it.
Again thanks to the mods for allowing a bunch of people they don;t know to be here and keep such an active board.
Date: November 07, 2012 02:57PM
Thought the same thing, Naomi. It may have been a different poster but a few months ago, a poster who had been active for a while and then left decided to come back to participate and posted about all the political threads and how much lower the quality of people posting here NOW are than when s/he was here before. It was a post full of passive-aggressive, rude, arrogant, aggressive slams on the posters here.
The poster was complaining that people who came here needed to talk about recovering from Mormonism--as if there was a proscribed checklist for recovering from Mormonism that works for everyone--and should have a safe political-free environment.
Others have covered much better than I could the obvious connection between politics and TSCC, especially with a royal-Mormon priesthood holder who sounded like a GA every time he opened his mouth and used many of the same dishonest tactics TSCC uses on its members. The line was gray when talking about Romney...admin could and did sort that out. How could that poster expect the lesser-quality-posters to attain her superior level of posting.
The delicious, glaring irony that the poster who came back missed was that his/her pious, angelic "protection" of newbies from discussions of politics fell flat in light of her announcement that those very same people were not up to snuff, well, you know, HER high quality, superior snuff anyway.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/07/2012 03:00PM by Surrender Dorothy.