Tom would like to make himself available for any chats we have regarding the book. Tom said he was open to suggestions and could do a FB group if that's what we decide. We could do it through RFM, a private group on FB or some other method (?) - for those of you who would like to join in.
FB has the advantage of creating multiple thread for different discussions and we wouldn't have to worry about topics disappearing off the main page and having to look for them or having a thread close because it's reached its limits of posts.
Hope mine got here too, can't wait to get home. I would vote for a private facebook group, leaves fewer restrictions to posting than RfM, I could make one if this is the route we decide to go.
And by fewer restrictions, I mean the organization would be easier to work with for the format we want, wouldn't have to worry about locking threads, and it is easier to keep track of threads, etc
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Crom, yes, directly from the author. I don't know if you're familiar with the book, but check it out on Amazon for some background.
Crom and AngelCowgirl, I sent Tom an email and let him know there are more people interested. Hopefully he gets on here and lets you know if he has more copies. I believe he sent out 16 freebies ($8 for postage), but I think he said he had more.
AngelCowgirl, I'm assuming your email didn't make it or got lost in the rush. I'm sure he wasn't dissing you :-) Hopefully he gets on here and gets you some info.
Hi All. Good reading to all of you. You've even got me re-reading my book again. I have to concentrate like hell in places, and I wrote it! ;) Look forward to your thoughts, and the exchanges and mutual learnings.
SC, I do have a few more books for any interested. Crom and AngelCowgirl if I didn't reply to your email I didn't get it. Please try again. tjriskas@yahoo.com.
Shoot me an email nottrueblueanymore@gmail.com and I will add you to the group, include a link to your facebook so I can add you, and please reference your RfM username. Let's get a facebook group started, it will be secret so only members can see it and things posted in it. If not a link to your facebook, I can add you by email address as well, so let me know.
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FYI - I sent Kerry Shirts an email letting him know that we're getting together to discuss the book and to see if he would like to join the conversation.
1. Is there a reason it needs to be a private chat?
2. What if someone doesn't want to link their IRL or FB name to their RfM name?
3. Will you wait until everyone receives their copy of the book? And reads it? I understand it is a big, deep read. That could take a while. Or will you go a chapter or portion at a time, like a book club?
4. I could see a good few threads here going on it and then many more readers/posters/lurkers could enjoy the discussion.
I'd like to participate but don't want to do the IRL name/FB thing...
PS: Tom is very kindly sending me a copy up here in Canada but it could take longer to travel this way. Don't start without me, I hope!
PS2: What about a podcast discussion? That could be fun!
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Nightingale, Keep in mind my voice is one among many. I don't know that there is only one way and that any one way is the right way. Having said that, here are some thoughts.
Nightingale Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Is there a reason it needs to be a private > chat?
Doesn't need to be "private" I guess. I'm not a big FBer, so I don't know the nuances. I was thinking just to keep things on task and not get hijacked by weird/off-topic comments it might be nice to have it private. Although I could set up an entire forum/discussion board that we could use instead that is dedicated solely for the purpose of discussing the book.
> 2. What if someone doesn't want to link their IRL > or FB name to their RfM name?
I don't know if it's necessary to link them. A separate forum/discussion board could also alleviate that.
> 3. Will you wait until everyone receives their > copy of the book? And reads it? I understand it is > a big, deep read. That could take a while. Or will > you go a chapter or portion at a time, like a book > club?
I personally was thinking about the chapter /section/pages method. Although, with a dedicated forum, many different chapters/topics could be going at the same time. I certainly don't think it needs to be entirely read first.
> 4. I could see a good few threads here going on it > and then many more readers/posters/lurkers could > enjoy the discussion.
The more the merrier. My biggest concern is that things move so fast and furious here that threads will slip off the board and people won't know it. Or, somebody will start a thread, and other people don't realize it and then somebody starts a new thread along the same lines. Then you end up with sub groups talking without ever knowing that other groups are doing the same. If there is some way around this, great.
> I'd like to participate but don't want to do the > IRL name/FB thing...
Understood.
> PS: Tom is very kindly sending me a copy up here > in Canada but it could take longer to travel this > way. Don't start without me, I hope!
I don't think we'll actually get started discussing for a little while since we have to get things pinned down as to exactly how we will proceed. I don't think there's a rush.
> PS2: What about a podcast discussion? That could > be fun!
That could be interesting, but I personally have no experience with it. I'm not sure how that would work with potentially 20 people from around the world. Ideas?
Satan Claus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't know that there is only one way and that any one way is the right way.
I like these words of wisdom. :)
SC: Thanks for your comprehensive response. I'm not good at FB either which is why I shy away from that idea but there could be a workaround I guess, if someone can explain it. I tried to set up a test FB account for myself a while ago, using a pseudonym, and accidentally entered my real full name and then couldn't figure out how to wipe it out. Sheesh, some newfangled things I cannot keep up with!
As far as how things go with the book discussion, I'll try to go with the flow. If it starts here and moves off board I'll try to follow. Re podcast, I don't know how they work either. Just that I'd heard that a host can moderate a discussion with many participants and then it's available to anyone who wants to hear it, or something like that.
I understand your thoughts about how it may go, or not go so well, here, but maybe we could try it and see how, and where, it goes, as you say.
I'm in favour of the KISS principle and keeping it open to all who are interested. So, however that goes...
Good idea, though. This is an amazing amount of interest already for a book not too many of us have read so far. It's kind of fun. (I know, I have a strange idea of "fun" sometimes).
Some of us prefer keeping the discussion on RFM, or maybe you could set up a blogspot for those needing to maintain privacy/pseudonyms. Even a secret FB group can be infiltrated by the 'curious' including spies from the SCMC who may be reading this very thread.
Since FB doesn't allow pseudonyms, it's a poor venue for some of us who are still transitioning and need to access info in a safe environment.
YesVirginia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some of us prefer keeping the discussion on RFM, > or maybe you could set up a blogspot for those > needing to maintain privacy/pseudonyms. Even a > secret FB group can be infiltrated by the > 'curious' including spies from the SCMC who may be > reading this very thread. > > Since FB doesn't allow pseudonyms, it's a poor > venue for some of us who are still transitioning > and need to access info in a safe environment.
Actually, I *do* have an alias on FB and so do many others. However, point taken.
We could always start it here on rfm, see how it goes, then adjust if needed?
I'm waiting anxiously for my copy and would love to discuss. I don't post on facebook, however, and have no desire to make an account. That's a philosophical decision for me. So I'm hoping we can discuss it here.
alphonso Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is Tom Riskas going to do another printing of the > book? As of now on Amazon it is listed at $500 > dollars. > > Or perhaps publish as an ebook through kindle or > something? > > I am interested in reading it.
I believe Tom said in another thread that the publisher was supposed to be doing another printing this summer.
However, Tom may have a few copies available for the low, low price of only $8 (for shipping only). Send him an email to express your interest: tjriskas@yahoo.com
King Brigham I Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm interested, but: > > Does anyone know when the "Deconstructing > Mormonism for Dummies" version will be published? > > Riska's book is deep.
LOL - that's the purpose of the group - all us dummies will be deconstructing Deconstructing Mormonism. I guess you could call us the deconstructing morons.
By the time we're finished, maybe the RFM group will be able to publish it.