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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
Today I finished Miguel Delibes, El Hereje (The Heretic), national prize for novels in Spain 1999. Delibes' last and perhaps greatest novel tells the sad story of the first Lutherans in Spain under the Inquisition, in the 1550s. Spoiler alert: nearly everybody gets burned at the stake. No surprises there, but a thrilling page-turner nevertheless, because it describes the evolution of human intera
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
... from Alpha to Omega, as it were, you probably won't make it past Deuteronium or Leviticus. I recommend a study program in which you read one chapter in the bible every day, alternating books from the Old and New Testaments, and no, not necessarily everything, but you will read at least some chapters from every single book in the bible. I did that a couple of years ago. Quite interesting.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
Moreover, I think one of the main raisons d'être for religion is that some people cannot fathom the world without them. "These are the latter days!"
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
LongOut Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You would expect tire slashing from Baptists. Wow. > Only a TBM would say that, and nobody on this > thread picked up on it. I actually already found it quite a bewildering statement. But then I'm a country hick from a mountain village in the Alps, so I don't think I've ever seen any Baptists. Seriously t
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
As gay as handbag full of rainbows. And if you already thought he was gay when you met him, he's probably as camp as a row of tents. But he'll have to walk this alone. Without the religion, he would probably already be in his bisexual stage, as in "bi now, gay later".
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
... What future does a brown child have? What is to become of him? A lawyer? Or a university professor? Or a state senator? Or a US Senator? Or US President? A best-selling author? Or a Nobel Prize winner? God forbid, maybe even all of the above! Such a shame. And hell, I'm not a racist, I grew up around black people: we had a West Indian housemaid and a butler from Barbados. Yes, I'm just kid
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
2,000 Light Years from Home (Rolling Stones) God (John Lennon)
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
... But they recognize good victims to make jokes about.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
Dutch: vergeven means both forgiven and poisoned. Sometimes it's nicer with one word that appears in two languages. I remember these from Spanish and Portuguese: Ano: year (Port) or ass (Span) Feto: fern (Port) or foetus (Span) Tentar: to try (Port) or to seduce (Span) Ligar: to call on the phone (Brazilian Port) or to pick up for a one-night stand (Span) I remember a Brazilian mishie
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
But if that were true some people I know would have died in the late 1600s.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
Now that would be creative accounting! Keep the number of stakes and wards but let them them have sacrament meeting together. Hey, you could even create new wards and stakes, perhaps one stake for each row of pews? Every member a bishop.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
It gives you a broader picture than looking at individual zip codes.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
It was estimated to be of a higher magnitude than the worst quake in the history of Europe, the 1755 earthquake in Lisbon. That quake destroyed places as far away as Lepe, Spain, 225 miles to the southeast. There is only one building in the whole of Lisbon that survived 1755: the medieval hilltop castle with its ten foot thick walls. Just to give an idea of what lies ahead.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
And for the sequel, his family comes over to celebrate the wedding in a five-star beach resort.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
My family was living in Madrid at the time and it was said that the time had come for countries to produce their own mishies instead of importing them from "la fábrica" (Utah). People from Madrid would serve in Málaga and vice versa. Yeah, right. The only "Spanish" mishies I saw in Spain after that were immigrants from South America. Now I live in Venezia and all the Elders
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
Sending mishies to the mormon bulwarks is not about keeping the members in check but about indoctrinating the missionaries, often themselves converts, from the weakest links in the mission field. Think Elder Borat from Kazakhstan or Sister Convertsen from Scandinavia.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
I once met a mishie ten years ago whose mothers name was Flanders. He mentioned that when I mentioned I had lived in Flanders. Don't remember his own last name, though I believe he was from your area of Utah.
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13 years ago
Zeno Lorea
But I looked up the LDS missions in the European countries where I've lived (plus neighbouring Germany, Holland and France). Here's what they have now compared with about ten years ago: Italy: 2, down from 6 Spain: 3, down from 5 Portugal: 2, down from 3 Belgium and Holland: 1, down from 2 Austria and Germany: 2, down from about six or seven I think France: 2, down from about five If
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