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1 year ago
Cactus Jim
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1 year ago
Cactus Jim
This is a book available for free online by professor Bob Altmeyer from Canada. He explains about who and what Authoritarian followers are and also what kind of monsters autoritarian leaders are. There are tests to measure your authoritarian level. Quite enlightening. Authoritarian followers make good mobbers. They like to have their beliefs validated by the people around them. They will at
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1 year ago
Cactus Jim
He may be out of step with Arizoan voters overall but not the Mesa Mo-publicans in his district. His main issue has been to roll back those pernicious environmental regulations that cost his business buddies money. That is right down the line with his district. I admire the man for standing by his personal beliefs and his personal integrity. I wouldn't vote for him if you held a gun on me.
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5 years ago
Cactus Jim
You must be a youngster. You have no idea what it was to grow up in the 50's and 60's. There were no "Gays", only queers or homos and they were freaks. That's just the way it was. It wasn't questioned. There was one kid I knew in High School, 6 years older than me. He was a very effeminate type gay who took Home Ec instead of Shop like the manly men. Everyone called him "Izzy"
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7 years ago
Cactus Jim
Thanks. I have quite a few friends and relatives who live there as well. I was just wondering if anyone on this board knew about either of them. I hadn't known anything about Stephen until I read his obituary in the local paper.
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7 years ago
Cactus Jim
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=35072699 Birth: Dec. 13, 1957 Salt Lake City Salt Lake County Utah, USA Death: Oct. 27, 1995 Fort Bragg Cumberland County North Carolina, USA Major Stephen M. Badger was a son of William Burton and Maurine Romney Badger. He married Nancy Peck and later divorced and then he married Diane Wallace, February 19, 1993 in the Wash
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7 years ago
Cactus Jim
Billy Badger was outed as gay in about 1962. He lost his job as a school teacher in Holden Utah, was excommunicated, and his wife divorced him. Stephen Badger was Billy Badger's son, about 5 or 6 when his dad was outed. Stephen grew up in Salt Lake. Stephen attended Salt Lake elementary schools, Clayton Jr. High, and Highland High School. He was a superb athlete in high school, and spent
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7 years ago
Cactus Jim
It strikes me you are missing the entire point. Either the church is the one true revealed word of God, in which case you need to be part of it even if they don't treat you well, or it's a lie, a fraud, and a scam from top to bottom, in which case get the hell out even if they treat you like a king. You are playing into their narrative that people only leave because someone insulted them.
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9 years ago
Cactus Jim
There has never been anything on TV since that even comes close to "Laugh in". For that matter there's never been anything nearly as good as the Smother's Brothers. Tweak the man until you get your ass kicked off of network TV. And there is but one true Batman. All others are but pale imitations.
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9 years ago
Cactus Jim
My first job, 1959, not quite 13 yet, rolling bales of hay for $.75 an hour. I think the minimum wage was about $1.25 or so. Aluminum Christmas trees with a colored light wheel rotating beneath so it would turn different colors. Pogo Sticks, Hulu Hoops. Maybe that was more the 50's. Basic Training, mean TI and one of the guys had a radio we were allowed to listen to - sometimes. "Ha
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9 years ago
Cactus Jim
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9 years ago
Cactus Jim
Everyone has their own way of looking at the church. What got me out might not mean much to you. For what it's worth here's my take on the church: Mormonism comes down to one fundamental question - who was Joseph Smith? If he was the one true prophet who restored the one true church then you better hang in there. But if he was a fraud who took advantage of people's gullibility to gain mone
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9 years ago
Cactus Jim
I've had that most of my life off and on. What I see is it's part of an inferiority complex. When I'm feeling confidant and a fairly significant part of the gang I don't have problems with it. If I'm in a mental state or a setting where I feel like a little nobody then it seizes up. As I've gotten older that doesn't happen much any more. Not that I feel important any more so much as I'm at a
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
I'd wonder if he's suicidal because of the church. I new a guy in the old days who committed suicide in Southern Utah because he was gay.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Just like Downton Abbey. Matthew's contract run out so the script writers have to create an exit.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
My experience was that when I tried being an exmo missionary to the family that is still LDS I created a lot of antagonism that still affects our relationship even though I quit doing that a couple years go. There used to be a cool little science fiction show called "Lost in Space". There was a cheesy robot that would accompany the teen age boy and when there was something bad around i
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Paul may mention Christ but he doesn't talk about his life. He doesn't talk about walking on water or born in a manger or anything like that, as I recall, but I'm not going to hunt sources. I'm going to bed.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Billy, you'd probably like a book I read sometime back called "From Jesus to Christianity". It's a history of how the movement started by some guy named Jesus morphed into the church of today. It says he probably existed but would have been a Jewish zealot, exhorting the people to observe Jewish traditions, including all the stupid dietary restrictions and circumcision. That didn't go
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Well you know my only experience with ropes was in 1966. The use of ropes back then was only at training bases where there were a lot of low ranking student kids. Their use varied from base to base. I don't have any idea if they still use them or what they might call them.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Interesting. I wonder how many LDS chaplains there are today. There might have been another one or two somewhere back then, I'm not sure. Chaplains are trained to pinch hit for each other. So a Mormon chaplain would know how to perform mass for a Catholic or a Jewish, whatever or preach for the Baptists. Maybe he spent too much time on his Baptist certification. Come to think of it most
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Fairy tales begin with “Once upon a time” Mormon Fables begin with “And it came to pass” Sea tales begin with “Now this is no shiit” Now this is no shiit. Back in 66' I was a young airman at Keesler Air Force base studying the mysteries of long range surveillance radar. We lived in these huge 3 story barracks that housed several hundred people. The basic living unit was a “B
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Thanks for the info. That's a lot to think about. I'm mid 60's and it's a pretty aggressive cancer so wait and see won't work.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Thanks. It does help because the doc says I need to decide. It sounds like surgery is the better route. One thing he said was if the radiation fails, then you can't go back and do surgery, so the options get norrower. This doc has written articles and given talks on this kind of stuff. So he knows his stuff.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
He says it's too far gone for partial. All or nothing.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
It's too aggressive to just ignore so I get to choose. The good news is the doctor is one of the best at the surgery, but side effect is goodbye erections and hello dribbling. Radiation has it's own can of worms. I can't just ignore it because I haven't been paying tithing so I'd be in one of the lower kingdoms. I'd make a real shitty servant.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
It's immoral to drink coffee. Now there's a moral teaching you'd never see without religion. Written as the evil Cactus hunkers over his first cuppa of the morning.
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not so sure about that. It would seem to rule out personal criminal charges against Monson. I see your point but I don't see it as the same. Monson was named personally because of the Corporate Sole nature of the church organization. It would have been more realistic if the complaint could have been against the corporation its
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Reading the Tom Phillips hearing, it appears that one of the primary goals of the one true church was to slap Tom with all their costs. The only reason for that would be the hope that it would ruin him financially. I recognize that they were in an adversarial relationship, but how can this not be Sociopathic? Anyone with an actual conscience would not seek to personally destroy someone over a ca
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10 years ago
Cactus Jim
Apparently if you set up a Corporate sole you are the only one responsible for the Corporation, yet if your minions are selling snake oil, you can only be held responsible if you personally make claims about the snake oil. I think I'm missing something here.
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