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3 years ago
goatsgotohell
The cat vomited. The Roomba was unaware. Everywhere the Roomba went the cat vomit was sure to go. It was not a cleaning revolution.
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6 years ago
goatsgotohell
I'm sorry you're facing this. I don't know how you are supposed to feel. I had a mammogram on Tuesday and they want to reimage this coming Wednesday. Just about every woman on both sides of my family has or has had breast cancer. I'm scared too. I go from the complete calm that everything will be okay to writing my obituary. No one realizes it's all I think about. I think we're both normal.
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6 years ago
goatsgotohell
I liked book. Never saw movie. Mormons wouldn't let their high school seniors read in my district. Their kids had "alternative assignment". I read it just to see what the fuss was about...all I could come up with is "they take the truth to be hard"
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7 years ago
goatsgotohell
If you drink every time they say "pay tithing" you might die of alcohol poisoning.
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7 years ago
goatsgotohell
I have a passive aggressive devil that sits on one shoulder and a kind, long-suffering angel that sits on the other. Usually the devil does a lot of venting and then the angel takes over with a more appropriate response. I do have to say that my initial "devil" response would have to be something along these lines: "Well mom, you are right. At first I was angry...but I DOUBT
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7 years ago
goatsgotohell
What I'd like to see is a scan of their brains when the shelf collapses. The article mentions one "spiritual experience" around the first vision. What I'd like to see is what lights up when the person hears all the parts of the first vision not in the official church video. Would there be something like fireworks between the "all is well in zion" part and the "Oh Sh*,
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7 years ago
goatsgotohell
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/07/500671246/subrosa-condemns-mormon-churchs-lgbtq-policy-in-powerful-video Sadly beautiful, lyrics, symbolism.
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7 years ago
goatsgotohell
Read "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer. That was when I figured out that the current church was really mainstream and the FLDS was much more like the "true" church.
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7 years ago
goatsgotohell
Pride is essentially competitive in nature. We pit our will against God’s. When we direct our pride toward God, it is in the spirit of “my will and not thine be done.” As Paul said, they “seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ’s.” (Philip. 2:21.) Our will in competition to God’s will allows desires, appetites, and passions to go unbridled. (See Alma 38:12; 3 Ne. 12
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
I 100% understand. Best wishes for the journey ahead,
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
Locally, outside of the morridor, the student ward was shrinking and Institute #s didn't allow for the paid director. Local senior couples were called to serve a local mission and staff the Institute, relatives served about 2.5 years. They kept the institute building open, taught 2 both day and night classes. The also oversaw the local seminary program, met with teachers, provided support, tra
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
Milk before meat is what ultimately shoved me out of the church. I converted (pre-internet, the gospel provided some answers and band-aids for concerns I had). As I matured, I had questions, most of them quite simple extensions from an Institute class or Sunday School reading. I was always told that I was digging too deep, didn't have the Testimony foundation, needed to focus on the Milk befor
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
For frequent style changes you can get a merkin...
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
Observing patterns of religious leaders I believe Jesus pursued power, money, sex individually or in some combination. I figure he was not much different from other religious leaders throughout the ages.
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
Reminds me of the neighbor's cat. Male cat, brought in to get neutered. Undescended testicle they had to "dig around" for. Cat sent home with pain meds. Same vet had spayed their female cats. Midline incision, cut out internal organs and stitched up. No pain meds sent home for their after care. WTF?
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
A few years back the seniors in high school were supposed to read "The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood. The LDS parents threw a fit, wouldn't let their kids read. This seedbearer idea reminds me of a section in the book where women who were unable to have children laid down, the handmaid laid between their legs, and the husband impregnated the handmaid who could bear children that
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
What I really love about the whole "Eve was so courageous and really understood what had to happen to make mankind exist" idea is that no one who promotes it ever seems to really explain why Eve was then cursed with the pain of childbirth and "curse of womanhood". Usually if someone requires you to make a brave and courageous choice they reward you, not condemn you.
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
I want to be cremated and then divided up so my husband and kids each get "a piece of me" and then they can do what ever they deem important. They can keep me on the mantle, they can bury me in their back yard, they can take me someplace special to them (me?) and scatter. Whatever is meaningful to them. They all look at me like I'm freaking insane. I find it a nice idea. Obviously
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
I got all hung up on the apron thing my first time through - I didn't get how Lucifer shows up wearing an apron, proclaims "It is an emblem of my power and priesthoods" then satan commands Adam and Eve to make aprons of fig leaves and hide from god. At this point, the apron seems pretty shady to me...so I can't understand why we all pull out a green apron and tie it on. Then, if you t
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
I had the sweetheart neckline. The neckline plunged a whole 2 inches from where a crew neck wedding dress (if they made something that ugly) would lie. The temple matrons found it terribly revealing and placed a dickey of yellowed double knit polyester in my neckline. They clucked "the groom might be distracted as you kneel over the alter" - as if he wasn't already obsessed with doin
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8 years ago
goatsgotohell
Dallin Oakes, a member of the second-highest LDS governing body, the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, wrote that he was very pleased to learn of the three new assignments.(Like he really just learned of them? Old Tommy did this all without the rest of the 12 knowing?) "We need their wisdom and participation!" Oakes said. (Because throughout the past history of the church we haven't n
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
Citrus Martini...yum!
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
Really interesting and understandable breakdown of the church vs corporation history and implications. Thanks for posting - except that it pisses me off that I donated so much to what I thought was a good cause!
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
Seriously, that cracked me up! With the number of cattle the mormons own, they must worship them! I'm sure Steve Vick (R-ID) would agree...
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
More interesting Cleveland Ranch info from: http://www.allaroundnevada.com/cleveland-ranch-spring-valley/ One person reports that in 1950 there were about 700 cattle on the ranch. And that was not even in "ancient" times. I love the comparison of "ancient" ranching with an operation that is 1,000 head larger than the 1950 report. Also, some crooked Mormon history in t
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
Here are my favorite parts: This statement about the "ancient " ways of ranching: "This is a huge project that raises fundamental questions," said Paul Hejmanowski, a lawyer for the church. "Can we sacrifice an ancient way of life for a growing metropolis?" Couple that with: "...the valley that is home to the Mormon ranch and its 1,750-head herd..." b
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
I'd prefer to not think of it as an "in" with Jeopardy, rather that Jeopardy recognizes the LDS as "trivial"!
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
Many years ago our area got a new stake center. The "mother's lounge" was a tiny room with no ventilation. Real pleasant when diapers were changed. There was space for ONE chair. If you needed to nurse and there was already someone in there, you sat on the floor - and you all know that there are very few babies in a stake and they only nurse one at a time! When women complained and
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
29. Re: r
I'm going with Relief Society... or maybe just really stupid. Hot or cold? Any new clues?
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9 years ago
goatsgotohell
Men covenant their obedience directly, women must coveneant their obedience through an intermediary, their husband. A lot of other things, I think they can play the "males and females are different" card, but to me, the stepped down covenant for women shrieks sexism. And then there are the things women used to be able to do (like blessings for healings) but now can't do...WTF
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