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10 years ago
kjourney
Thanks for sharing. Great article and cartoon. Pat is my neighbor, though I doubt he knows who I am. He has a killer display at Halloween time and the kids love trick-or-treating at his spooky shed.
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10 years ago
kjourney
Last night I noticed several Utah high schools were having their homecoming dance. Many of the girls had on beautiful dresses covered by ugly ballaro jackets. I remember in high school (10 plus years ago) our seminary teacher giving out what he called "The President Hinckley Award" to the high school group dance picture that had only girls with sleeves on their dresses. If you had even
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10 years ago
kjourney
I had this same dilemma when I went back to work as a teacher a few years ago. My personal feelings were that I wanted my baby in a licensed facility rather than someone's home, even if that meant paying a little more. I was still in the church when I first was looking into daycare. Naturally I asked my RS president if she knew anyone. She gave me one name and it turned out to be the wife of my f
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10 years ago
kjourney
Can we make the FB group a private group with hidden members? Not everyone I'm friends with on FB knows we've left and I'd prefer to keep it that way. If not, I understand.
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10 years ago
kjourney
Thanks!
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10 years ago
kjourney
We would love to meet up again too! What is the Meetup website?
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10 years ago
kjourney
I loved this parody. It was great!
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10 years ago
kjourney
I posted this link in response to everyone who posted a link to the "FYI if you're a teenage girl" blog post on FB. http://natepyle.com/seeing-a-woman/ I am a mom to three boys and a sexual abuse survivor and I would much rather teach them respect, responsibility, and to really see a woman for more than her clothing than the garbage on that other blog.
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10 years ago
kjourney
We will be there.
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10 years ago
kjourney
I started out similar to your wife. DH figured things out first, but continued to go for me and our marriage. It didn't take long for me to start seeing the truth once I started reading. I hope your journey out of the church will end with her by your side. It's so much better when you are able to do it together- or so it seems from what I have read from those who go it alone.
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10 years ago
kjourney
A few months after DH and I got married my mother-in-law had a baby (yes she was pregnant at our wedding). I bought the baby the cutest, and a little expensive I might add, ruched tank top and shorts as she was a summer baby. I should have known better. It never got worn!
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10 years ago
kjourney
We do and yes finding a Sunday sitter isn't always easy around here ;-)
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10 years ago
kjourney
Yes! Hubby and I are in!
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10 years ago
kjourney
My blessing and my two sisters have a lot of the same wording and they were given by the same man. Mine did have some things that ended up being true, but who knows if that was coincidence or I guess it could be self-fulfilled prophecy. One thing mine said that I have always hated was that "my voice would be heard loud and clear concerning honest and true government." I HATE politics an
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10 years ago
kjourney
From the front, on my left hand, the ring finger looks slightly longer, but from the back they look even. On my right hand the pointer finger is clearly longer from front and back. Not sure what that means. I am hetero.
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10 years ago
kjourney
I was cleaning out some stuff today and came across my old journals. This is the entry I wrote the day I took my endowments out for the first time. I have not edited this except to take out any identifying information. I was pretty TBM at the time, but I can see seeds of doubt in my mind even at that time. Six years later DH and I left the church. July 16, 2004 Today I took out my endowmen
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10 years ago
kjourney
I too would love advice on this subject. My kids are still young 7 and 2. We recently moved to a new neighborhood and I feel like we hardly know anyone. I want my kids to have friends in he neighborhood without feeling like we have to go to church sponsored activities to meet people.
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10 years ago
kjourney
Someone on here once told me the church does not have a monopoly on values. They are not the only ones who teach them. That has always stuck with me. Values can and probably should be taught primarily at home and simply reinforced at church, school, etc.
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10 years ago
kjourney
My sister-in-law sent this link to my husband with the message "Thought of you." http://www.lds.org/ensign/2013/07/living-for-the-eternities?lang=eng We aren't exactly sure what she wanted us to get from it. Maybe that we sinned and need to repent or that we need to think of our eternal family? She's a pretentious, 19 year-old, child bride who kind of thinks she knows everything.
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10 years ago
kjourney
My husband and I have been out about three years now so not super long, but we are fortunate enough to still have mostly good relationships with our TBM families. We try to be respectful of their beliefs and expect no less from them. We don't bring up religion or the church with them unless asked. I do think it's possible to still have a relationship but it is more work.
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10 years ago
kjourney
Sometimes I'll wear the Down East or Modbe brand cap sleeve shirts under my clothes to create garment lines when I'm around friends who don't know I've left. Pathetic, I know, but I'm not ready to tell some people yet. The spanx idea is great for the bottoms.
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10 years ago
kjourney
Oh the irony! One of the children must know I was talking about them. No sooner had I posted this, I check my Facebook page and this is the top post in my feed by one of the family members mentioned above with a lovely picture of Joseph and Hyrum attached. "Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any othe
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10 years ago
kjourney
A family in my childhood ward were related and every year they went back east somewhere for the big Smith family reunion. Every year they came back and all eight family members bore their testimony of JS in church.
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10 years ago
kjourney
My SIL is serving a mission on the American Indian reservations in AZ and NM. This is part of the last email she sent home: "I'm learning why all the natives are less active. when they were younger they went on a program called "placement" parents sent them to utah with mormon families to get to go to school. so all the natives here have foster families in utah that they still k
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10 years ago
kjourney
I've never understood why the church is against giving a couple the chance to have children when they are so pro-family. I've thought about being a surrogate before for my friend that had a kidney transplant and her medications make being pregnant unsafe. I think it's a wonderful thing you are doing.
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10 years ago
kjourney
I've had a few experiences the past two weeks with censoring from Mormons for either me or someone else having an opposing point of view. The first was about the bikini immodesty thing. I made a polite, yet opposing comment on my SIL's facebook and got deleted because she didn't want controversy. The second thing wasn't really even church related, but seemed to ruffle some Mormon feathers. I
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10 years ago
kjourney
This same thing happened to me just last week with my sister-in-law. I posted about it before she deleted it here. http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,916471,916471#msg-916471 She deleted her whole post instead of just my comment. I did send her a message asking her if I offended her and she said no, she just didn't want controversy on her Facebook page. I dropped it. I decided it wasn
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10 years ago
kjourney
At our family get together for Father's Day my nieces told my six year old son they they wouldn't play with him because he doesn't go to church. My sweet son came inside in tears and told me what happened. I talked to him privately in another room and told him that he never had to go to church if he didn't want to. I told him it's what's in his heart and how he treats others that makes him a good
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10 years ago
kjourney
In my personal experience, I appreciated those who were friends throughout my struggle. I appreciated those who were there to support me without trying to be my therapist or doctor. It's a tough situation for you because I'm sure you don't want to offend her. Her reaction would probably depend on how old she is, how long she's been doing this, and if she is already getting help. If someone would
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10 years ago
kjourney
Interesting! I went on a tour there but ended up not choosing them. My biggest red flag with them was when I asked about GBS and water birth since I has GBS with my first. Their response was "we have ways of helping you get a negative test result." I think this is because most of their midwives are unlicensed and can't give antibiotics. I thought this was dumb and risky because the stre
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