It is a great relief to no longer associate with Mormons. Mormons believe whatever they want to or are told to believe--whether it is a lie or not. For example, they believe that all apostates will be unhappy and unsuccessful. My bishop and home teacher, separately, both cursed me with illness and financial failure, and that my children would fail in life. Our lives have been quite the opposi
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Just add in the phrase, "pay the money" or "for a fee" where appropriate. ...pay the money and go to the temple.... Satan will try to distract you and prevent you from paying the money and doing this work. How could any teen-ager believe this garbage. There's a disclaimer, for heck sake! I hated it when the Mormons would tell me how to feel: "Your heart sw
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I was sucked back into the Mormon church after I got divorced. My TBM parents and others convinced me that "it is the best way to raise children." They convinced me that I needed to rely on the church, because I had "no priesthood in the home." I put these in quotes, because I heard these phrases over and over and over, until I was brainwashed once again. These phrases are
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In my opinion, your gut reactions are correct. Mormons are trained to convert new members. Their motto is: "every member a missionary." When they convert someone, they are promised that for them and the convert, "Great will be your joy together in Heaven." People who bring in new members gain popularity and prestige within the group. They brag about it in meetings, and pro
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Newborn babies are the Mormon cult's number one source of new members.
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Always remember, that the Mormons don't own Jesus. They don't own the concept of "family" or "community" or "service", or any of those good, basic human principles. In fact, IMO, the Mormon church is lacking in those principles. Especially, the Mormons do not teach, preach, or practice unconditional love. Russel M. Nelson gave a talk, in which he said that uncond
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I agree about Don Bagley. Does he have a collection of his writing, somewhere? Back to brainwashing. The difference for me was that when I found out Santa wasn't real, I didn't get mad at my parents. In fact, I was moved to tears that Mommy and Daddy cared so much about me, that they would give me those wonderful gifts. When I was an adult, and found out the Mormon church wasn't real, I
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Well, those of us who have families would not throw our children under the bus. I can't imagine taking my innocent grandchildren to church. I can't think of anything we could do, that the Mormons couldn't do more of: flooding and dominating the internet, advertising with expensive PR firms, lying, lying, lying, bragging about false statistics, building atrocious buildings, aggressively pushi
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Lori C! I'm blown away! Thank you so much for this! I was born into (BIC) a dysfunctional TBM family. My brother was firmly established as the tyrant ruler, long before I was born. I had a "volcano" of a mother, who was bi-polar. I turned down my lovely atheist boyfriends, and held out for a returned missionary, and married him 9 months later in the temple. He had a history of
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So true. I was once one of the arrogant ones, myself. We didn't know that the ladder was leaning against the wrong wall.
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Exactly. That's why Mormons focus way too much on the WOW, piercings, and tattoos. That's something they can handle.
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My brother was an abusive monster who beat me and tortured me,and others, my whole life, until I set a "no-contact" boundary for me and my children. We are from a prominent GA family. I wondered if such an evil person would be allowed to go on a mission, but he went, right on schedule. He gave good speeches and prayers, crying on cue, saying all the right words, but never from the so
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And the Mormon tree was decked with shiny-ness, and Mormoni blew his trump at the top, and glory shone round about; whereas, the little gentlie tree froze on the porch, and was chewed up by the squirrels and deer, and peed upon by the neighborhood dogs.
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My TBM cousin went through a nasty divorce, after 30 years of marriage to an abusive TBM. They never had any children. She was pretty much bullied into nothingness--afraid to speak, afraid to leave the house, afraid to pursue her career, etc. I've been worried about her. The cousins all met for lunch, last week, and her sister said, "(Divorced Cousin) is doing great! She has thrown hers
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That is very interesting, and telling! Yes, the changes reinforce my non-belief also. My nephew was in the MTC this fall, and he was shocked at how little actual scripture study was included in the training. The Mormons are definitely moving away from scriptures, the written word, history, and debates of any kind. The missionaries are taught sales techniques, fellowshipping, manipulation,
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Good cop, bad cop. This ought to be interesting, CA Girl. Probably you will have more dealings with Brother Satan, because they think he's better with people.
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>>"the church is _not_ strengthening them but is the source of most of their problems."<< I was raised in a dysfunctional TBM family. Appearance was all that mattered. For a while, my own family was becoming that, until my wise husband discovered that Mormonism is a hoax. The only time I got impatient with my children was when I was getting them ready for church, and t
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Thank you for your inspirational post, My2cents. We feel the same way. We have done Sub for Santa for many years, at work. We include our children and spouses in this, and sometimes we help two families. We have never chosen Mormon families, because up until lately, we have believed that they were covered by the LDS church welfare program. This is not the case! We could get the Mormons whi
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Stb leaving said, "I felt like I was in the presence of evil." That was how I felt every time I was in a Mormon temple. That overrode any feeling of peace or beauty that I could have had. Nature is beautiful, even on the dreariest, barest November day, and no one tells you to move on out, to make room for another group, and to pray somewhere else. Anyone with eyes who has seen r
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Once you have lived away from a TBM family, it is very hard to come back. Maybe this is true of most families. My TBM family was very abusive and dysfunctional. Yet, I knew I would get through college faster with their help. I also had a scholarship. Get a job! I always had a job for the summer, and at Christmas. Thanksgiving and Spring break were not long enough for me to go all the way
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You are right. There was always something major missing. The Mormon church has changed drastically over the last 20 years. When we resigned, we felt like we were resigning from a different church. One of the hundred reasons we resigned, was that we wanted to follow Christ. You described, very well, what our feelings used to be at the "Christmas Devotional." One Christmas, I wen
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Tell them you are quitting. It is a volunteer job, and, I know this from experience, you are considerate to tell them, instead of just not showing up. Don't ask. Tell. Be polite, yet firm. Keep repeating the same phrases over and over, if it takes 30 times. This is the "broken record" technique: "I'm not going to teach anymore. This is my last Sunday." Why? &qu
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Yeah, what is "normal"? People thought one of my brothers had Asperger's, but he was later diagnosed as bi-polar, and Cluster B personality disorder, with anger-management issues. He behaved like a monster. He used to beat and torment me and my siblings, with no reason, no provocation. He was extremely manipulative, and would cry and gain my parents' sympathy, so he went unpunishe
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You are not alone, Puff the magic dragon. Mormons can never do enough, and what they do is never perfect enough. And, like one poster said, it is all done to make the church thrive. My Sunday depression vanished when I walked out of the church for the last time. It has never returned. I get sad, like normal people, but that hopeless despair, the feeling of worthlessness, the dread of the h
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Rich relatives! A friend of mine sells lots of houses to Mormon first-time home buyers, and almost always it is their parents who actually purchase the house. She says that the parents always swear her to secrecy, so that everyone will think the children bought it on their own. They keep up the illusion of success. They fooled you, didn't they! My parents bought houses for all my brother
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Instant ward party: Get Stouffer's potatoes au gratin. Heat in oven. Combine a little bit of all the drinks in your fridge to make a punch. Dilute with half water. Pour into a paper cup, and leave out to warm to room temperature. Put up a folding table and folding chair in your rec-room or hallway. Cover the table with white butcher paper (or tape together a few sheets of compute
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Great thread! This is very useful to me. I like "Theydontwantmeback"'s letter, a lot. It really is best to not debate the nit-picky, petty details of Mormonism, because Mormons love to confuse you with too many references and cross-references, line and verse scriptures--all swirling around in that tiny cult--that verifies only its self. Mormons are trained to do this, and probably
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My best friend died suddenly, a year ago, on Thanksgiving Day. I feel your pain. Remember all the good things about her, always. You a great writer, and I'm sure you will write a lovely card, letter, or post on the funeral website, or whatever. Something in writing is so concrete, so genuine. You can also donate to a charity she liked, in her honor, plant a tree, send flowers, bring din
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Someday, I hope to laugh at it again. Still in therapy for PTSD, Mormonism brings on flashbacks abusers, bullies, pedophiles, wife-beaters, thieves, polygamists, racial bigots, etc. These criminals are not funny. People paying tithing--not funny. overpopulating the planet--NF. The basic premise, the Joseph Smith stuff, the back-pedaling, the apologetics, the over-concern about piercings
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Me, too. Cognitive-behavioral therapy for PTSD, and also for help in dealing with my dysfunctional Mormon family. My family and their cult took away my personality and identity, made me sad and hopeless, manipulated me into making bad decisions, and brainwashed me. That is a lot to overcome! Many of us are the only one in our family to leave the cult, many of us lose our spouse and our chil
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