That reminds me of the funniest movie ever. Dear infant baby jesus in your golden fleece diaper, bless my hot wife... I am paraphrasing.
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Use against me how? I thought of it as having a conversation with a friend, not an inquisition. When he tried to turn me into a project, I was friendly, but shut him down.
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Because I have started coming out over the past 6 months or so, I will say that it is worth it. We have lots of friends in our ward we do stuff with and I am finding more and more who feel the same way I do. Now that I have told the bishop where I stand we will see what happens, but for me it has been well worth it to come out. And as to why I came out, my children were beginning to question
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I honestly do not think he was trying to control me, he seemed genuinely concerned about the fact that I lost faith in god, he wasn't as concerned with church. I think it is more likely he agrees with me at some level, but has found it easier to stay in, "just in case". Plus, while I do not know about his heritage, his wife is from a huge multi generational TBM family.
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I have carried with me for the past 5 years, a cruciform that a Catholic priest gave me off of his rosary beads after a long conversation about faith. I found out later from another priest that it was his first cruciform, with the symbol blessed by the Benedictine monks in it, and he had carried it for years I look at the years of wear from his hands rubbing it as he prayed, and it makes me w
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There are many here who have far more knowledge than me, but No Man Knows My History The Origins of Power are two books and John Dehlin's essay on how to stay in the faith is a great way to find your way out.
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We'll see, the leadership of the ward here is pretty laid back, so I have hope.
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Polyandry was practiced with openness and honesty. No prophet or leader could be over 50. We stopped proselytizing The temple ceremonies all started with everyone naked. The celestial room was also a copulating room. Then we would be close to JS vision for the church.
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that he needed to release me from all of my callings. When he asked why, I told him. I like the guy, and respect him, and I do not mind talking about it. The high points, more or less in order(his questions followed by my answers he is not in quotes, I am): Why? "After prayerful consideration and study I have determined the church is not true." So can I ask what you do be
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It bothered my wife until she started watching it with me and saw how silly most of it is. Now she likes it as much as I do. She even has her favOrite alone time scenes. I love her cog dis.
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My dad told me God intentionally creates doubts in the church so we have to rely on faith. What?
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If a person is investigating the church they automatically come here? Or do you know this person is on here? And I agree with others, I have 8 sisters and if they are cheating, it is not because the guy they are banging is holding them hostage, they want to do it. And they want to do it because something is wrong in their marriage.
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This is where I hope we can get to...she is still running to all the meetings.
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When doing dead confirming I once had 3 sheets in a row where the only name was smith, that's it. Ridiculous. Me and my buddy used to race and see who could do more faster.
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I teach my kids two values, and try to follow the same two values myself. 1. Respect yourself and others. 2. Don't lie to yourself or others. Now the fun part is deciding what constitutes respect.
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I was having a conversation with my sister who is also leaving the church the other day and we were talking about faithfulness and how I was a lot more likely to cheat when I was a TBM then I am now. She agreed rather enthusiastically and we talked about why we feel that way. As a TBM, I married, had kids, was faithful, etc. because that was the life plan, it is what I was supposed to do,
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I have never been hurried out of the Celestial Room. I have sat there for a half hour. But people are scared to talk to me.
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I have watched my dad lose his mind from watching beck. I am so glad he is off the air. Dad seems much less paranoid/end of days since he has been off the daily diet of chalkboards.
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Not even for a second.
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I was chatting at mormon.org about this and the missionaries told me that they only baptize family members that have been submitted! What a relief.
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I printed out John Dehlin's how to stay LDS after a major trial of faith and left it in the bathroom until my wife read it. I also printed out the wiki on Book of Abraham. While that seems counter intuitive it talks about most of the major problems with the church. And when John talks about how to "not lie" and to be very specific about what is doctrine and what is not, it will mak
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4000 mg of Vitamin C Echinacea 4 grams Grape Seed Extract 4 grams
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I lived in Utah as a child and would NEVER go back, even at my most TBM. But you mentioned family so I will share that my family (wife 5 kids) recently moved several hours away from a small town where all of my family and her mom lived. It was incredibly hard for us to move and the first year was rough, but our family is so much closer than we ever have been and my wife and I have a much bett
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So a family walks into a talent agent and says, we have a variety act to show you....
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Thanks Robert for your post on Conversation with Wifey. That seems to be the course my wife and I are progressing down, and it is helpful to see that while not always pleasant, it is normal to have a high level of conflict and various points of a relationship. I wish I was a better at referencing my research. I put knowledge into my head, draw my conclusions, and do not write a logic train
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Thanks for the support. And I will say that I have never been shy about questioning doctrine and culture. One of my favorite rants as a TBM was about D&C 89, so I am sure that as this continues to develop, there will not be a lot of shock, but there are some holier-than-thou's that will sniff and sneer. But that is ok too.
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The joy of a blind message board is I can get advice about my situation, or vent about it, where I never could in RL. And if someone in my circle of influence recognizes the situations I am describing then they are going through the same things I am, at least at some level, or they would not be here.
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SusieQ#1 - I know you have never held back how you feel on this board and I respect you for that, but I think you have the wrong idea, I am neither resentful or angry, and I do not have the expectation that she change her beliefs. I have hope, but no expectation. I am at the point where I have two children who do not believe the church is true and they need support in their home so they do no
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So I walked in on my wife's RS Presidency meeting last night as I was bringing something to my son that he forgot for scouts. They were planning and I brought up the idea to do the Mrs. Butterworth ( I might have said Aunt Jemima) syrup bottle pioneer women. The whole presidency rolled there eyes and asked why would we do that? I told them because it teaches the lesson about becoming whit
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Appearances are very important to her. But she also loves me more than the church(thank goodness.) Me not going to the temple, holding callings etc, is a big step for us and I think the timing is right. To Can't resist, thanks, it gives me hope that she will find her way out.
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