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12 years ago
icanseethelight
reverttoclarity
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
I must be incredibly "desensitized" since I did not think it was that violent at all. And as far as kids killing kids, I think the Civil War, WW1, WWII, Vietnam, etc, was all about kids killing kids for the ideals of the fathers. And that was real life.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
My 12 year old just read Of Mice and Men, and Hunger Games is not nearly as disturbing as that book. One of the comments said: "Do not compare the scriptures to works of fiction" I laughed for 5 minutes!!! So sad
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
There are more Jehovah's Witnesses than Mormons. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That is hilarious.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
It started for me at 16 when I realized D&C was just JS manipulating people to do what he wanted. At 19 I read the Godmakers. At 39 I said enough is enough, I quit. The mental gymnastics I did between 19 and 39 are gold medal worthy.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
The links are being blocked by robot.txt protocol when attempting search from the wayback machine at archive.org. Ahhh....censorship, obfuscation, misdirection, and guilt. The tools of the trade.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Holy crap, you made me realize there are polygamists in my ward!!
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
I debated on commenting on this topic, it hits pretty close to home. I have come to the conclusion that the church is becoming more and more harmless, and if you take away the power of the "leadership" in your home, it is easy to deprogram any damage that might be done to your children. My DW loves church and all of the busyness that comes with it. I think of it as her hobby. We d
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
If so you can cordially kiss my (expletive), because I decline to scrub your nasty toilets.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
According to mormon myth, satan had a plan to get everyone back with no pain, we would simply come, get our body, do our time, and then continue on the eternal path of happiness. Jesus wanted to get the glory for "saving" us, while letting us get murdered, raped, starved, tortured, and any number of other unsettling things, just so we can have "agency" to choose a single,
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
The magic underwear question is a non starter. The Mormon faith of today is not the Mormon faith that existed 100 years ago. They have marganalized the garment, marganalized temple work by acquiescing to Jewish demands, and are turning the boat as fast as they can. Bt on order to keep tithing rolling in they. Annoy turn it to fast. Plus there is obviously a philosophical going on about where to t
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Thanks, and it is and actual belief system too http://www.iep.utm.edu/hedonism/ see f:
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Since I no longer label myself any kind of mormon at all anymore, including ex I have been looking for a new one(we all HAVE to have label you know)and here it is: Hedonistic Utilitarianism It is not a great, and needs tweaking but I like it!
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
don't forget, if you do not get the "right" answers that satan is tricking you into believing you are feeling the Good Spirit Holyghostipop.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
I agree, I have openly questioned the church for 25 years and have just withing the past year been able see it for what it is. I also think that is why most people I know are not that surprised that I finally left. It is funny, I spent the night at my dad's after the conversation and the next morning, when I was leaving he went back to what it always comes back to. I will paraphrase: ic
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
I am surprised by how people are responding. Most have said, Your still the same icanseethelight aren't you? I say absolutely and we move on.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Now that I am openly out of the church it has led to a lot of very good discussions. I have determined three of my friends that stay only because of family stuff, probably why they are became my friends to begin with. I recently had a talk with my dad that lasted 3 1/2 hours about my leaving the church. I outlined my problems, we discussed it and he was not hostile or hateful. He has more k
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Not only will they allow it, they will encourage it. But sooner than that, garments will be modified again, this time to make what is left of women's sleeves disappear and the bottoms will be made 2 to 4 inches shorter. They are already making garments with the symbols silk screened on the inside instead of sewn in, this will become mainstream and the only way they make them in less than 10 yea
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
n/t
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Playing. I am looking at a 25' deck boat with a jet drive
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
DW has agreed that since I am such an awesome breadwinner that if I want a boat I should, by god, get a boat. Awesome. We are going to test drive one saturday morning. She is even willing to be late to her precious meeting with the RS presidency of the whole church!!! But you know as well as I do when she comes out to go to church on Sunday morning and the boat is hooked up to the Suburban there
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Oh I am so watching that with the wife
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
On Saturday they are going to dig in, call everyone to repentance, and to pay a full tithe. They will also pound on people to stay off the internet, while minimizing and obfuscating any negative press and history. Probably something like: "...brothers and sisters, we have seen satan grow powerful in these the last days with many of those who have lost their way due to offense and sin who
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Not many southerners commenting on this one. In the south it is rude beyond belief to not welcome someone in If they drop by. And we will feed you too.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
DW just told me she would be gone all day Saturday to church leadership training. Friday she will be gone all day to the temple. Then of course we have Sunday meetings. She does not see anything wrong with this. Tomorrow night is scout meeting. It never fucking ends. And she KNOWS and agrees that JS was a liar!!! It just does not compute in my brain.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
As Exec. Secretary I have had to go to members with the what can you offer list. How many people you can house in an emergency, what supplies or skills you have i.e chainsaws, medical training. It also asked your willingness to use these things for the group in case of an emergency. For us that was all it was. We had some hard core survivalist oriented(John Birch Society stuff) ward leaders, a
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Thanks for the link. I am lmao right now listening to it
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
And also, she does not think that the BoA should be scripture, and agrees that JS is a liar, and so are other prophets. It is a pure emotion and fear of loss that keep her in.
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
I have not. I have no interest in replacing her belief in one church for a belief in another. She is finding her path, and while has a lot of hurt right now, I hope she is seeing that I am not "bound with Satan's flaxen rope" as was referenced in today's SM. I am a better father, lover, husband, and friend. I am more honest, caring, and understanding. How can that not pay off i
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12 years ago
icanseethelight
Yes, he did question me, I also expressed concern and sorrow for his loss of family time because of a church that preaches about family constantly. Planting seeds Dave, planting seeds. If I have to go every Sunday to make my wife happy, I will, willingly, but I am going to do my dead level best to pull every gunny sack off of every head I can, including the bishop. When you say it with a
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