Yes, that's what I was taught. Rubicon, did you have proof that the fast offering funds were really being spent that way? Did you, as a Stake Auditor, know enough about the financials to be certain of how the money was being spent? I'm interested in your comments, because you were pretty high-up in being trusted with the finances! You should know, right? How much money did the stake ta
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All those years I was a Mormon, up until almost 10 years ago, I was taught that fast offerings were kept in the ward, to be spent on ward expenses, within the ward boundaries. It would be interesting to investigate those Mormon-owned cattle ranches and farms "which produce food to feed the hungry". They mean "feed the hungry that pay money for the goods". Exactly how many M
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Zelph The Apostate--that was great! Thank you! You are really funny! I love your observations of people, your descriptive names for them, and the dialogs, your story. It is all very relatable, and hilarious at the same time. Well done! >^..^< Ha-ha! I love your testimonies! "The book of Mormon is as true today as it was when it was written." and "The spiri
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What I detest is, "Not to be critical, but...." I hope I'm not out of line in saying this, but..." "Not to hurt your feelings, but...." If something is going to tear someone down, or cross the boundaries of privacy, or make someone feel bad, then why say it, at all? Do these idiots think they are negating what they are about to say; therefore, they can say it with i
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Brokenshelfhelp, I feel for you! Everyone's journey out of the cult is different, but there are some similarities a lot of us share. Read some of the exit stories, accessed on the home page of this RFM website. You will know that you aren't alone! Your question is very general. I remember, when I first discovered that Mormonism was a hoax cult, feeling like I'd had the rug pulled out f
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Yes, great post, carameldreams, and it's good to hear from you! Lowpriest, You know your son best, so you can figure out what to say, and what not to say, etc. My only advice about how to approach him and his wife, is to simply state WHY you are leaving, and keep religion in the perspective that it's not very important in your relationships. The Mormons cult has always used brainwashing, thr
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I agree that your wife was conned by the Mormons. I was a lifetime Mormon, and I know from experience that Mormons target people who are grieving, to try to recruit them into their cult. Your wife being already baptized is another leverage point for them. Mormons are notorious for never letting people go. Of course, the promise of an "eternal sealing" is fake. I think your wife w
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Mormons don't respect boundaries. Who does your sister think she is, telling you what to write and say? Mormons are arrogant in wanting to take away our rights. Do you tell her to not talk or write trash about YOU, or about your favorite political candidate? Your sister and her cult are constantly trashing apostates and intellectuals (that's YOU), and accusing others of "following Sa
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No, and I had to make it known that my children and I were no longer members. Period! The Mormon leaders had physically abused my children, and my little girl had been molested by the bishop's son. She was asleep in her sleeping bag, and the creep did a lot more than the guy on the plane did to Elizabeth Smart. My daughter screamed, and there were kids that saw what was happening, but the
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This prophesy is bogus. Romney might drive up in a white mercedes. Didn't the prophet foresee the invention of cars? I'm waiting for Mitt to show up at his next public appearance in a white car, or wearing a white suit. --I have a burning question: Do you people think that the Big 15 advised Romney to vote to impeach Trump?
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No one mentioned the LDS, Inc. owned businesses the church invested in, did they! They didn't mention bailing out Beneficial Life, Zion's Bank, or the City Creek Mall, did they. They didn't mention their many business and land acquisitions (such as land and proposed resorts in Florida and Hawaii) did they. They didn't mention Amalgamated sugar, and its affiliation with Anhauser Busch and
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Bwaa-ha-ha-ha-ha! That's just laughable! Until I stop laughing, and realize that I once believed in this cult, and donated all that much-needed money, when I was the sole support of my children, and then I feel stupid, and ashamed. Sorry, kids, that I threw away your money and forced you to go to a church you never believed in the first place. My apologies to the three families that I b
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Words are cheap.
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Being a GA is a retirement position. Just the stock options alone would make it an ideal retirement.
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Ask yourself, "Who WOULDN'T want a GA position?" Money (a lot of it) less stress, no accountability, no one can judge him because HE is the ultimate authority, free first-class travel around the world, free help while traveling including hair dressers and porters and coordinators, blind adulation, power, success, limos, household help, they could keep living in their houses in Cottonwo
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Good question, LeftTheMorg. I'm also waiting for an answer. I suspect we're not getting an answer because no one knows for sure. I heard that some lady missionaries in cold countries have been allowed to wear pants, but don't know if they can wear those pants in a chapel. I've had a few never-Mormon women say they wore pants to a Mormon funeral, but these were well-respected profess
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Silly me...I haven't given it much thought, but when I heard about Romney's vote, I started to go through various political scenarios, as to how his political "rebellion" could possibly benefit his future. I thought perhaps he was going to start his own third party, or something like that. Romney always has an agenda. I couldn't come up with anything, except maybe Mitt's wife is sick
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Elderberry said that it is "good to find joy from a place where darkness and abuse thrived once." I know exminion went through rough times, and Don Bagley, and to a lesser extent, so did I, and most people on this board who were raised in dysfunctional Mormon families, by strict, unloving authoritarian Mormon parents. I grew up "in the field", and was able to separate my
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She froze. People can interpret and rationalize things any way they want, but until they have been a smaller, weaker female, attacked by a larger, stronger male, they can not comprehend what is it like. Fear! Men are much stronger than women, on average. My ex-husband beat me and strangled me until I stopped breathing, and I would have died, and I fought as hard as I could. Fighting for
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You don't want to inhale in those buildings.
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When my TBM brother was dying, he fantacized about the harem of wives he was going to have in the Celestial Kingdom. Since the were heavenly beings, all his women would be "perfected beings" around their mid-twenties, as the Mormons would have it. My favorit last sin would to be so wasted on drugs that I would feel no pain.
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Does it smell the same? You are brave. I had to go into my old ward building to vote, the first year I was out, and I had flashbacks, which made me angry that I had to go in there to vote. I exhaled, and walked across the basketball gym to the sign-up table, and the lady there said loudy, "We miss seeing you at church!" Please let us know how your evening progresses.
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Done & Done, you put into a few sentences my exact feelings. For me, it happened in two seconds, too. The light just flashed on, and I immediately felt infused with the Truth. This happened, when my children and I were talking together, and they told me (and each other) or the first time about the physical beatings and molestation they had suffered at the hands of the Mormon leaders. The
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I think you're right about this being how new church policies are released. I'll think of you, Messygoop, if the cult adds the porn question to the other temple recommend questions. We heard it from you, first! Do you have a link to the article? I thought you were referring to the "that time of year again" letter sent out by the Mormons at Christmastime. I got several that actu
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I thank you for the book suggestions, as one who is always interested in new perspectives. I jumped from Mormon fake prophets directly to atheist scientists, and feel I need to read about ideas somewhere in the middle. I think Lewis leans very heavily towards Christianity, and I didn't find many new, more liberal ideas in his books that I read; though He resonated with me far more than any Morm
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Right, Rubicon. Did you read the thread about the new Mormon Handbook being published onliine, only, so the cult can keep changing their written policies more quickly and easily? Why go through the dragged-out process of pubishing it--it isn't fast enough to keep up. Soon, the POGP, the D&C, and the BOM will be online only, for quick changes, corrections, and deletions. (I think they'
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A "position of trust"? They news media gave his name, and photos, but no occupation, so my question is, Who is the media trying to protect? A dental group (inconscious victims, and look at the guy's teeth), a hospital, a school district, or a cult? Why isn't he in prison? Maybe he has relatives in high places.
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I love this. Thank you, ziller for sharing your trippy trip with us, in your "beautiful thundering horse-less / tapir-less chariot". I often wonder about future civilizations digging up all of our 2-liter plastic bottles, and making guesses at why so many of them are found piled together in one place, in each city. Perhaps it was a sacred place of worship, or a market exchange wher
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Thanks for the link. Will read it tonight. I really resent the new term: "faith crisis." There is no such thing. It's "discovering the Truth", plain and simple. It's the Mormons standing in the way, covering up, lying, harassing, threatening, and shunning that turn it into a "crisis." There was no crisis, but a string of a-ha moments, in which things start
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