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7 years ago
Laban's Head
On their way. This is a tough situation for you.
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7 years ago
Laban's Head
My late husband taught Math and Computer Science at BYU. Every week he would invite a group of his students to our home. We would serve soft drinks and snacks. It was always awkward, as they had no clue about mingling and chatting. One time a student came and you could tell he was totally comfortable with the experience. After talking with him I learned that he was not LDS. That explains ev
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7 years ago
Laban's Head
So this should give you idea of who your real friend is. Being in the middle is a really crappy place to be.
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7 years ago
Laban's Head
sooooo funny (and true)!!
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7 years ago
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He had planned how he wanted his funeral to be. The plans did not include remarks by Bishop or anything about The Plan of Salvation, which is just about required at LDS funerals. The bishop kept pushing for it, and could he just say a few remarks. I finally told him that regardless of what Boyd K Packer has to say, my husband wasn't dying so the the church could have another Sacrament Mtg. I
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7 years ago
Laban's Head
I wish I could say that I would have done this years ago when I was leaving the church, but I probably wouldn't have. But the new me, after about 10 minutes, would have said, "As you can surely see, I am pretty sick and feel awful, so I'm just going to go to bed now and try to get well. Feel free to let yourselves out when you are ready." And off I would go. There is no rule you hav
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7 years ago
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This was the experience of a good friend of mine. Her husband had been in a recent accident and was now a paraplegic. Fortunately she was one of those strange souls who got a degree and actually used it and had a career, and so her's was now the sole family income. She went to get her TR renewed and after the interview the bishop told her that he would sign it IF she agreed to quit working.
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7 years ago
Laban's Head
I would go and support your partner, but I would let his family know ahead of time that IF they so much as touch you -- with the sloppy kisses and fake hugs -- there will probably be a scene. That you are there merely to support the son and your SO -- not to play all fake nicey, nicey with them. Good luck to you, and get the dog!
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7 years ago
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There are several things to call a person with whom you live intimately without matrimony: SO, Domestic Partner, Partner, etc. But they are all awkward. I face the same dilemma. My SO, DP, P and I have been together for nearly 10 years, but are unmarried. So unless you have a better nomenclature, dont bring it up. I don't think she needs you dumping on her for her choice of words at this
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7 years ago
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When my daughters were married (temple weddings but very nice non-cultural hall receptions) it was really difficult for me to decide who should be sent invitations. For the first, my husband was in the bishopric, and so I figured it would have to be the whole ward. We're talking heart of Utah Valley here. But for the second, I was already on my way out and hubby was pretty disaffected. So the
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7 years ago
Laban's Head
In most cases, not even a decision YOU made, but rather one that your parents made for you.
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8 years ago
Laban's Head
I remembering being in the temple (decades ago) and doing the true order of prayer circle part. And I looked up (through my veil because I'm a woman and all) seeing these old geezers doing the pay lay ale thing. I suddenly pictured a sitcom of old guys in their Royal Order of the Muscrat regalia doing their sacred signs. I had such a hard time not bursting into unholy loud laughter! I knew the
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8 years ago
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Sundays were harder on Moms than on Dads. A little less so now with the 3-hr block. When I was first married and had our requisite covey of children (4 in 6 years) dads began Sunday by taking off for Priesthood meeting, leaving mom to get the kids all ready for church. Where we lived, church was 30 minutes away, so after I got the kids ready and loaded into the car I would pick up another mom
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8 years ago
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Short version backstory: The church had been harassing my parents a good deal when they finally "found" them after many years. My blind 80-yr old mother was caring for my very ill father alone except for help from my sisters and I. It was very distressing to her. I finally contacted the bishop and the local mission pres. and told them to knock it off. When my father died they a
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8 years ago
Laban's Head
P E R F E C T !!!
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8 years ago
Laban's Head
This really is a great way to go. First of all, it solves the personal situation. Tell them the truth and that you don't want a bogus religion passed along to your children any more than you want someone giving them crack. Think about it. If the majority of exmos responded in a like manner when being 'fellowshipped' by neighbors, or having their children preyed upon, the church just might
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8 years ago
Laban's Head
Your reply reminds my of when I was a freshman at BYU and one of the bishopric was giving all the women the standard sexual purity talk. His statement was that women have a "little muscle 'there'", that won't relax and allow access unless the woman wants it to. So in his mind, and what he was teaching, was that women cannot be raped. If it happens, then they really wanted it. Lovely
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
I wonder how her husband feels about being referred to as a 'service project'.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
Bra over garments is hellishly uncomfortable. At one point I finally decided I wasn't going to do it any longer. My teen-aged daughter saw and gave me the what-for. I responded that when Heavenly Father started wearing a bra, he could tell me how to wear mine. My vote on the depends: under.
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9 years ago
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So sorry, Cheryl. It has to be difficult, no matter what the circumstances. My 94 year old mother is living with me. She is blind and has very low quality of life. She has been finished with life for several years but the world still wants her here for whatever reasons. The other morning she slept about an hour later than usual. I was really torn between the hope that she had passed peacefu
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
Y. E. S. But I admit that I did not have a lot of family complications to deal with. I think that takes the main source of angst and pain out of the picture.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
A doctor I used to work with wrote out two sizable checks when they came to his home to collect for FOS. He gave them the check for the Scouts and then gave them the second and told them it was for the Young Women's program. They said they couldn't take it because the YW didn't have a financial program. The doctor took it back along with the first check for the scouts and told them that if the
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
Thanks.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
My mother said she heard a list of the most scary movies and there was one called "The Missionary" about a missionary who could not leave someone's wife alone. I have never heard of it and wonder if anyone here knows anything about it.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
Regarding Women's Meeting graduating to be part of General Conference, what I want to know is if men will be allowed inside or be barred at the door as women are from the Priesthood session.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
My prophecy: It will go to DVD in time for it to become the go to Christmas gift for TBM's to give to wayward family members, etc. Regifting is perfectly appropriate in this circumstance.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
Suicide can be a terribly selfish act. But I don't think we can ever really know what drives a person to that desperate, final act. I am sorry for him pain and for your pain.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
Slightly PRE-Boomer here.
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9 years ago
Laban's Head
My favorite part: ".....in recent years the church has worked to make itself APPEAR to be m ore open and inclusive." as opposed to actually BEING more open and inclusive.
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10 years ago
Laban's Head
My daughter was on a mission in Northern Italy in the late 80's. They had a point system for the sister missionaries regarding make-up. I don't remember the details, but lipstick was worth so many points, mascara, blush, etc each had their points. There was a minimum amount of points the sister had to have on her face before she went out each day.
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