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Hey there wanderinggeek. How's things in your neck of the woods?
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Hi Susie, I don't really care necessarily how she feels about it, my concern is it gets back to my dad and he'll call me irrate. I am not generally in the mood to be belittled and yelled out by my dad. I am a grown ass woman and apparantly that never seems to matter. It's the fallout that will suck, but I will know the source. :)
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Thanks all. It's not my mother's reaction to me I worry about. I think she'll find it nice to have coffee available. What I don't like is she'll go blabber it to the TBM family and then I'll get a heated call from my dad. Yeah, it's really him I don't want to deal with. :). But if she wants a relationship with me she'll keep it on the down low. :).
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Mom is coming. She has some issues. She herself left the church years ago but this is the first "family" visit of any kind since we left. She knows we aren't going back. However, she can be critical of things. Nobody knows DH drinks coffee, etc. i am worried she is going to tell my siblings as "gossip" and then we will really enter the fire storm we are not wanting or fee
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I have not been in your shoes. However, possibly things are amicable because you have an attorney? My parents did it without attorneys but they had it all agreed upon and then went to court and sealed the deal. Good luck!
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Your list is what I think but internalize. If I may I will steal it and use it when the time comes to defend myself. Thank you for articulating it so well and good luck healing the relationship with your dad!
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I as a woman in the church (now outside of), including my father have consistently been bullied by "men of god" that "hold" the priesthood. Thankfully, my husband is not that way. However, he feels similar to wanderinggeek...when I left he was totally taken aback by how women are treated once he opened his eyes. That helped him leave as well. This whole OW thing is more th
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I saw that too. I hope he doesn't conform to the pressure of the church.
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Sorry to hear this. You two need to find new interests and decide that you are married to each other and not the church. Good luck. Hard place to be in.
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london Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > David O. McKay in The Miracle of Forgiveness: > "Your virtue is worth more than your life. Please, > young folk, preserve your virtue even if you lose > your lives" (in Kimball 1969, 63). > > Heber J. Grant was also quoted on the same page, > "There is no true Latter-Day Saint who
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Yeah. With you. I felt the anger myself. People have sucked all the way around today and the holier than thou attitudes on facebook are getting to me. Yeah. There.
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I hope dehlin isn't ex'd it will be a nightmare and fire storm from hell.(I like dehlin)
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I am just pissed. I don't care about the priesthood thing I do not want it. But it just proves that if you are a woman don't ask anything or you'll be next. More oppressions, submission and suppression for women is just what the church imposed. Women in the church-pull your heads out and wise up.
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The LDSchurch looks like a bunch of morons to the restof the world. It would be in their best interest to stop attempting making examples out of individuals because it only makes them look like assholes.
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I am sure the church is keeping it under wraps locally. Because they only own like 3/4 of your news agencies. The morg pisses me off. Keep 'em uninformed all will be well.
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Rightfully so..
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I really hate with all of my being when people take things out of context! I really hate it. Just because someone doesn't agree with a political figure, church or anyone for that matter do people have the roght to take things out of context. Generally when it is put into context the entire meaning changes. Grrr..people only do this shit to stir and cause craziness. I am so sick of it. The ha
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I am so very confused
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Is english not your first language? I sense the fear and massive anxiety.
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I must know, what is the fb page called? I'd love lurking there.
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Hi there! Nice to *see* you.
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Wow. :(
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Oh wanderinggeek...I'm sorry!
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We allowed her to go. She is 14. I feel that if I absolutely said no and didn't allow her to choose then I am just doing what the church did to me. I was never allowed to think or act for myself, ever. At some point I have to allow her to make a decision. Hubby was very concerned and echoed much of what some of you have. She came home happy and said it was lots of fun. I'll admit i was ner
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DH is not too thrilled. I told her as long as it wasn't a Mormon church I didn't care. What are your thoughts?
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Oh wow. Seeing that now after being out and removing the rose colored glasses I see the conditioning. I SEE IT. I would have said that was "cute" or "fun" before. Wow. The conditioning is real and it's disturbing.
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I am guessing though that the members that get "help" from this team are going to be saught out rather voluntary? Kind of like a decade ago when we were "assigned" to attend marriage and family or family history class during SS? Nice. I see where this is going--push more members towards the door. Sorry, this was towards OP and for some reason posted here. :)
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So, friend needing to make a decision after another decision had been made. Everyone is telling her to follow the lord and his counsel and as long as she prays and follows him she won't be lead down the wrong path. GRRRRRRR!!!!! That is not true. NOT TRUE!! I can't tell you the number of decisions we made after "counseling with the lord". So many choices would have been very differen
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