summer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One thing I think you should realize is that until > you formally quit, these women are still your VTs. > So a visit with you (even if they don't discuss > church) still counts as a church-mandated visit -- > meaning that it will be difficult to determine if > they truly want to remain friends, or not
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nonsequiter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If its only been a week I doubt many people have > really even noticed. I still attend about once a > month with my family. I have been in the same ward > my whole life, grew up with many still there, had > many of them as mentors/teachers/whatever. The > only time I was away was on my mission.
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Ex-CultMember Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not so sure you can be "sealed" by your children > and saved in the highest kingdom if you die. I've > always been taught as a Mormon that if you > received the gospel in this life and then reject > you can't get into the highest level of heaven. > Work for the dead only works for tho
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dogzilla Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I find it difficult to believe the missionaries > didn't know you have to be temple sealed in order > to be together in the afterlife. They are taught > that from Primary on. They know, they just didn't > want to admit to you that they bait-and-switched > you. You were not given full disclosure with
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I think maybe you're drawn here because all the mormonism is around you and this help you regain some balance. That is the only thing I can think of. I just left the church last week. I live in Utah County so I get what you mean when you say it is EVERYWHERE. This is the one place it is not. So....balance is healthy. :)
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I can't even pronounce the dude's NAME. It is spelled Fallaballa and he's pretty awesome. But that's it. I didn't enjoy ANYTHING else.
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"To Joseph Smith this alleged "red herring" would have been a white and delightsome herring. None of that cursed Lamanite red stuff."-Steve **chuckles***
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cheese Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quite interesting that the guys main argument with > Steve's comment is that it isn't fair, not > displaying both sides. > > OMG. When confronted with a tidal wave of > absolutely horrific statements oozing with > racism.....we're supposed to be critical of Steve > because he doesn't mention
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Maggie Lindsey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you again to Steve. He has the energy I do > not have. He has well documented sources I do not > have. He has the power of the pen I do not have > and wit to accompany it. > > BRAVO! > > The one thing I do have is remembrance of the > terrible racism that consumed my mind i
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"How do you know I'm Steve, the Holy Ghost told you?"- Steve Benson ***snickers***
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This is yummy chocolate cake. THANK YOU!
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Ahhh wait I think I'm finding it. Wahoo!!!! Oh wow man. Hands down. **bows to you, Steve** WOWWWW
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I didn't find it. Still scrolling. Is he "DemDatDuz" on there? That person makes a whole lot of sense and is funny as all get out.
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I just left the church last week. I was only a member for nine short months. I never really understood their idea of "living prophets". 1) How come they don't accept any other religion's "prophet". How come it's only their prophets; and 2) Why so darned MANY prophets? I could see if they said, Ok we had a prophet, J. Smith and that was it; and finally 3) I felt nothi
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Do you think it will make it to air?
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I read the article and while I agree with the vast majority of it, it doesn't give much direction on HOW to break through these barriers. The problem is that when I come at the missionaries or LDS folk with hard core facts, they say they don't "believe" this and that the holy spirit reveals truth to them in their hearts. However, when I come at them from the emotional standpoint,
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I think it has to be an issue of boundaries. NO CHURCH TALK. None. No mention of it by them or you. I just left the church and that is my stance. No religion, no politics.
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Well- I'm keeping the scriptures and manuals I have now so that I can PROVE their lies.
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VERY weird timing with the death of Nelson Mandela and all........
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I am so glad you posted this! I have found that the church keeps changing their doctrine! I recently left and I was wondering what to do with all my mormon doctrine crap.
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Honestly, (and I know this won't be a popular opinion) but that was one of the things I LOVED about the church. The reason they consider porn bad is because it's adultery of the heart. You'd never watch anyone in person having sex so why watch it on tv? Why not just act it out with a loved one? Porn does nothing for me but disgusts me. Even before I was a member it was that way, and now that
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I left the church a week ago. I was a convert of only nine months. My husband is a non-member and has no interest- he's into gnosticism. The more I studied the temple, the more I began to ask questions about how to get into the celestial kingdom. I began to find out, via study, that mormons believe that if I don't get married in the temple and then sealed, that I won't be there in the celesti
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LOL this is hilarious. Love it. But no, I'm not wanting any cookies or visits. And it's only been a week for me. I only want visits from my FRIENDS, and if they try to sway me back into the church they will get booted out of my home promptly.
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Yeah it doesn't sound like a coincidence. I recently left the church but when I was a member if I posted someone on FB that was strange or if I missed a Sunday, etc., the missionaries were right over. They have the oddest timing..ugh.
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Ok...so..as I was typing to you all, my VT messaged me again on FB and said, "That's fine, I'll come just as a friend and will respect your boundaries". She wants to come on Fri. This will be interesting- to see if she can visit WITHOUT talking about the church, because I made it clear we're not discussing it.
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madalice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The hard facts: > You're only valuable if you pay 10% tithing, and > clean the church. > Mormons have very few Real friends. If you're not > a mormon, you're even less likely to be considered > a friend. > If you were baptized, you're considered a member. > If you stop going you're considere
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Ex-CultMember Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Various people and varying capacities at various > times will be "assigned" to "fellowship" and > reactivate you. Its only been a week so I'm not > surprised you haven't had people come by yet. > > As long as you are on the rolls of the church you > will receive periodi
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anonthistime Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > unfortunately, yes members are talked about in > meetings. Each auxillary (RS, PH, bishopric, > etc.) has, usually, weekly meetings where they > plan, discuss, assign & delegate. You might have a > home teacher, not all home teachers do there > assignments. > > Mormonism believes t
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Oh my goodness, I can't believe this is bothering me. I just left the church last week. Being such a new convert (of only nine months) I cannot BELIEVE I acquired so much CRAP. Blue painted blocks someone painted for me that say "CTR", CTR jewelry, lesson manuals, a hymn book, a zillion BOMs, picture of myself and my children with the missionaries after our baptisms, etc. I don't wan
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releve Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Isaac Hale. He insisted that JS find a new way to > support his daughter. Hahahaha I know right?
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