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Brother Of Jerry
Tom, you’re being too clever here. When you resign, you are no longer a member. Full stop. Yes, they still have a record that you were a member, but that does not make you a member. Yes, things like temple marriages may continue in force for “eternity”, as far as LDS Inc is concerned, but actual real legal systems never recognize Mormonism’s “forever” contracts. That’s why you ca
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Yesterday
Brother Of Jerry
Encyclopedias are not supposed to be every last word on a topic, and I have no idea how you would determine whether any article anywhere contained “every last word”. In particular, Wikipedia has an explicit policy of not allowing original research to be published. The information is supposed to be published somewhere else first, and a reference to the original source given in the Wikipedia
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Yesterday
Brother Of Jerry
Transcontinental railroad was completed in 1869 (May 10)
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
The church keeps an inactive member’s record on file until it is notified of the member’s death, or until the inactive member is 110 years old, at which point they assume the person is dead. Wards and branches being altered does not affect membership. It is church HQ in SLC that handles resignations. You can call Member Records and ask if you are still a member. If you never got the let
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
You’ve brought this license plate thing up before. You seem to think it is a big deal. It is not. It looks like WA registration is about $400 depending on where you live in the state. The average car moving into the state will have an out of state registration with six months left before it expires, and they have thirty more days to change plates, so they are “getting out of” paying WA auto
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4 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
More puzzling are those who know what science is, and are agin it, because it interferes with their imagined freedoms.
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4 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
The excuse usually given is that Mormon's can't afford to live there ("there" being any location in California) anymore, although the area population has almost always gone up, so *some people* seem to be able to live there. I expect most LDS youth in California during the Prop 8 debacle, and perhaps a fair number of adult members, were embarrassed, perhaps even humiliated to be iden
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
You flamed out in under three days. Kinda saw that coming. You did crank out over 10,000 words in 3 days, which may be a record, though I am not sure if I should count the same farewell post put at the end of both your threads. You sound bright enough, so good luck in your future endeavors. Remember - bowling. Buy a ball that fits, you can rent shoes. They are less important. And buy
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I don't know what it is about french bread. I put some in my toaster at its usual setting and the damn stuff set off my smoke alarm. I'm in a high rise, so that causes a pretty big stir. :-/ No other bread has ever set off my smoke alarm.
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Corb Lund is an exMo from Calgary who has had a pretty successful music career. His band played Park City during the Sundance Film Festival a few years ago. I think Horse Soldier was his biggest album, Truck Got Stuck a fun country western video. Family Reunion mentions his Mormon relatives. All on YouTube. Lund is a very Mormon name. Perhaps you were conflating him with Bachman.
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I stick with my advice about joining a bowling league. You need to spend some time getting to know normal people with normal lives. Get a copy of The Big Lebowski while you’re at it. T least you’re not an anti-vaxx ranter, and watching you try to go all mansplainer on LW was … interesting. Try not to flame out in under three days.
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
My suggestion: put down the philosophy books and join a bowling league. Anyone using words like Dionysianism needs to get out more.
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
The Guess Who was from Winnipeg, Manitoba. Randy grew up on the north side of town, which was heavily Ukrainian and Germans from Russia.
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
The closest I ever got to anything Osmond was I once saw Jimmy when he was about 14, picking up trash at the Riviera Apartments parking lot, which his family owned,
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6 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I have a friend who was a real estate agent, first in San Diego, then in SLC. She said that in SD, if the person on the other side of the deal was LDS, you damn well better write an iron-clad contract, and still expect to get jerked around. In SLC, things were more normal. Some people were devious creeps, some were good to work with, just like anywhere.
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6 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Kanye and his traveling circus are pulling up stakes in Cody, WY, and leaving the town not particularly the worse for wear. I get the feeling some residents were hoping gobs of money would be spent in Cody, but by and large, people are glad he and his entourage will be gone. A constant diet of noisy BS gets old after a while, no matter how much money it brings in.
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I actually could have attended Woodstock. I had just gotten off my mission, and I was living about two hours away. Not that I would have dared go, but having an alternate life was certainly within the realm of possibility. I never cared for Jimi, Janice and Joe. CSN, the Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, Simon and Garfunkel and Tom Jobim were more my style. Carli and Carole and Gordon Lightfoot and
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Canned Wheat was released by The Guess Who in 1969. It's a rock classic, containing three songs that went on to be major hits: Laughing, (She's Come) Undun, and No Time. By way of context, The Guess Who released the album Wheatfield Soul in 1968, with what I think was their first big hit, These Eyes, and they released American Woman in 1970. They were doing very well for themselves. Randy Bachman
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Are you really that desperate to find "evidence" the vaccines are dangerous? Maybe kale compromised his immune system, because I've never liked kale.
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Sounds like powdered milk before powdered texturized vegetable protein meat substitute. Kind of distressing that God with his glowing rock was less that 200 years ahead of humans making smartphones, that run circles around rocks in hats. You'd think the Grand Poobah of The Entire Universe would have a better engineering department than that.
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Other than Pele, all I remember is that there were more apostrophes than consonants.
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8 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Until we get a better explanation for dark energy and dark matter other than “it must be there because none of our measurements make any sense without it”, none of the cosmological models are plausible. Declaring that 95% of the universe is Mystery Mush is not a model. Sources? How about cosmologists, astronomers and physicists. Yes. She’s Black, and makes volcanos spit lava.
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8 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Guess which one actually happened: Jeff Holland had a meltdown and chastised the BYU faculty for not embracing the Q15's hateful LGBTQ policies. How dare they act Christian. Lot's Wife could only name 4 or the 6 Grandfathers of the Sioux/Lakota spiritual tradition. She was so upset she had to be talked down off a ledge. Ziller wrote two sentences in a row that both had verbs. Schrodin
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9 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I spent a good chunk of my adult life living in and near Winnipeg and of course heard of their favorite sons Randy Bachman and Burton Cummings, and Neil Young. I had already left Mormonism, so I was completely unaware of Bachman's Mormon connection until I learned about it here on RFM. I think Neil Young did RB one better by succeeding in three bands - Buffalo Springfield, Crosby Stills Nash
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9 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I think another contributing factor was the fact that the US was entering the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, which profoundly changed American life, and the entire world. The Erie Canal was completed in 1825, which was a major development in the start of the industrialization of the Great Lakes states and cities like Detroit and Chicago, and upstate NY (Syracuse, Albany, Rochester). E
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9 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
People, it is a translator's job to convert the original document into language recognized by the intended audience for the translation. Using commonly spoken phrases of the time is perfectly normal. That's kind of the whole point of translation. The phrase doesn't prove that JS actually translated the BoM, but it in no way disproves it either. All it proves is that JS (or whomever you think w
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10 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Defiant "Calvin", peeing on a flaming sword.
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10 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Seriously? If he is infected and going out in public unprotected, he is a clear danger to the community. This is spectacularly irresponsible. I'd notify his employer. Vaccinations are effective, but they are not 100% effective. Your chances of getting infected are much lower, and your chances of being infectious yourself if you should get infected are also lower, but they are not zero.
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10 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I have no problem with questioning who this supposed being is. However, if the being said "I am God", that still proves nothing whatsoever. The being could have been wrong/delusional/lying/fictional.
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