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Brother Of Jerry
I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make. Women were considered adults at a younger age than males. OK. That is no longer the case, though your material does not clearly point that out. The semantic scholar quote is particularly puzzling, though I guess it is a screed against marriage. And finally, your conclusion: "We need a constitutional amendment to dig the grave for
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Brother Of Jerry
I was amazed a few months ago to see Russell Bufalino's name popping up. He was locally well known as a mobster in Pittston, PA. I lived within walking distance. OK, kind of a long walk, but doable. Everyone knew he was a mobster, though it took years to ever convict him of a crime. He specialized in truck hijackings, which the movie Irishman hinted at (Frank Sheeran stole a few loads of beef
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Brother Of Jerry
Um, he did the exact opposite of that in this column. In fact, most of his columns would make a certain type of TBM either uncomfortable, or forced to consider that their typical attitudes land far wide of good Christian (or even simple humane) behavior. So what is your real complaint? This one seems not just fabricated, but the opposite of reality. I'm puzzled at the hostility from you and El
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Today
Brother Of Jerry
This repugnant story is THE primary justification for Mormons' penchant for lying for the Lard. If you can rationalize this behavior, you can rationalize anything. Even in a war, Nephi's actions would be at least two capital war crimes, not to mention showing the ethics of a sewer rat.
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Yesterday
Brother Of Jerry
Ditto what Rubicon said. I was a social captive, not a social convert. I eventually was not up to the task of pretending to believe.
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Yesterday
Brother Of Jerry
Italy was considerably more Catholic in 1943. Not sure that put them in a better place. There have always been problem spots in the world. And I think it is particularly hard to pin the current state of Italy and Hong Kong on the decline of Mormonism. Meanwhile, the least Christian parts of Europe seem to be doing the best. Utah seems to be doing OK, but I attribute that to the Mormon empha
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Yesterday
Brother Of Jerry
Different names, no monthly visit requirement, solving two problems. The monthly stats were so poor, they simply stopped collecting the monthly visit stat. And the monthly ward traffic jams on the last Sunday afternoon of the month were distracting.
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Yesterday
Brother Of Jerry
Oh, come on. Everyone knows the cultural Marxists have taken over the world. Gwyneth Paltrow's success is proof enough that people's brains have been degraded. Credit cards! Fluoride! Dogs and cats sleeping together! The demise of 3.2 beer! Don't get me started...
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2 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Dirhenium is a thing? Does that mean dilithium crystals are real? Beam me up, Scotty!
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2 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Delbert gave the standard Mormon claim at the time that Mormons are not racist. God is racist. We are just following orders, and getting rid of the racism is not our call, it is God's. GBH, being a PR person, was well aware that while this explanation worked perfectly well with TBMs, it was never ever going to fly with the public at large, outside organizations like the KKK. Saying God is the
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2 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Wait a minute. Didn't David file a whistleblower complaint against Ensign Peak Advisors, for being a charity nonprofit that gives nothing to charity, makes lots of profit, and gives illegal off the book loans to businesses? Also, NDAs are not enforceable WRT illegal behavior. David apparently had no problem going after LDS Inc. seems to me he is upset about this whole thing going public. I'm s
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2 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
The north and south entrances to the Main Street Plaza at Temple Square have big cube shaped stone structures that are meant to slightly intimidate. The Conference Center across the street looks like a cross between a 1930s major downtown post office, and a penitentiary. All very Stalinist.
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
What LW and dagny said. Plus, Brigham using religion to control his Pussy Galore empire was PRECISELY what JS had in mind. Brigham was just more successful at it.
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Is it okay? Sure Will it lead to trouble? Probably sure, especially if you have to ask.
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
What makes you think her life is lonely? Or that people with families aren't lonely? Matrimonial chauvinism!
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Hell, there's a dozen or so temples in Utah, and they closed two missions here!
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/01/18/error-printed-lds-church/ All that blather in the BoM and BoA about dark skin being a curse is no longer the "word and will of The Lord"™, but somebody in the publications department didn't get the memo. Of course the BoM hammers repeatedly the idea that the Lamanites™ were cursed with a skin of darkness. It's kind of hard to read
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Re macaRomney's posted sexism: I've said this multiple times in the past, but it still applies: "where to start?" I don't have a lot of time right now. This analysis of the amendment's issues from a website I'd probably better not list because political. __________ This now raises at least three significant legal questions, none of which are answered by the Constitution: (1) C
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I think it's urban legend. A million dollars in silver dollars would be 34 tons. (troy ounces are about 10% heavier than "regular" ounces, if you are checking the math. :) Even back in the late 1800s, a million dollars was not all that much for an institutional value. The price of gold in the US through the entire 19th century was $20 a troy ounce, so a million dollars would be abou
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
The name for the "labyrinth of catacombs" and the BYU "subterranean campus". is "steam tunnels". It is quite common for collections of large buildings (campuses, downtowns) to have a central steam heating plant rather than individual furnaces in each building. At the University of Manitoba, which I visited a number of times, they made some of the steam tunnels large
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Oh, for God's sake. No, he did not sign a non-disclosure agreement. He plea bargained for a life sentence without parole, instead of the death penalty, if he would plead guilty and not go to trial. They (the Church and Utah Poohbahs) thought the optics would be really bad if GBH had to take the stand and state his name and occupation for the record. What exactly would the penalty be if he
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Hey, y'all, I think you are giving the bank a bad rap here. They don't get the pick and choose what court orders they are going to honor. If somebody comes in with a legitimate court order, they have to honor it, just like they would have to honor a check drawn on the account with a legitimate signature on the check. This was not "an SSDI account". It was just a plain old bank account a
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8 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Yeah, frequently. And enlightenment, frequently. And better health, transportation, entertainment, etc etc. And a phone with a good enough screen you don't need to put it in a hat to read it.
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8 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Best quote: "...for the Bible is full of it." :)
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9 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Not only don't we have any idea how many resigned and returned, we have no idea how many resigned, period. LDS Inc of course has precise numbers for both statistics, and there is zero chance they will ever tell us. I suspect the number of rebaptized resigners is vanishingly small.
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9 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
They are one and the same. Did you fail Trinity 101? ;) Jesus wants you for a sunbeam, dude.
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10 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
At least one amendment took well over a century to pass, so 97 years from first introduction would not be close to a record. Surprisingly (ok, I was surprised!) in a recent Utah poll, the ERA had wide support, something like 65 or 67%, this in spite of the LDS reiteration of their opposition. Virginia looks like it will be the 38th state to ratify, but Utah is still in the running. Wouldn’t
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11 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
And the Three Nephites don't show up and change near as many flat tires as they used to. Perhaps tires are higher quality now.
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11 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
"Priestcraft" is wrong? And having a rank amateur offering counseling is better? As for the inoffensive part, I'll grant you that one. Mormonism is pretty good at being offensive. Most people don't view that as a plus, however. Members of other churches don't really participate? You've obviously never really been, then. At my church, most of the sermons are done by the minister,
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12 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
BYU has a nationally recognized accounting program. The university I was at used a two volume accounting text written by BYU profs. I never took the course, but I skimmed the books. The course profs said that text was the 800 pound gorilla in the field. I bet LDS Inc has some of the best forensic accountants in the business. They may have been burned by fraudsters a time or two, but I be more
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