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Brother Of Jerry
Bradley was not implying your brother is racist. He was just throwing in a gratuitous political dig at the "math is a white man's thing, and therefor racist" crowd. Of course, that particular crowd, besides being very small, is neither religious fundamentalist nor conspiracy theory minded, at least not in the sense that it is usually used. So it is off-topic for this thread. Bradley jus
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Brother Of Jerry
What Tonto was actually saying: "quien no sabe?"
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Brother Of Jerry
Ask and ye shall receive: Another obvious similarity is that both these tiny communities (in global terms) see themselves as “chosen” and categorize the rest of the world as “Gentiles.” But here, too, there is a difference. From a Jewish perspective, Latter­day Saints are usually seen (often igno­ rantly) as another vaguely Protestant group of Christians, and thus as Gentiles. Like man
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Brother Of Jerry
Seeds of Cain for the second whitest sport in the world after curling?
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Brother Of Jerry
Nobody suggested "The Utah Polys"? C'mon Or Utah Pyramid Team Utah Salts Golden Questions Utah Garmies
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Brother Of Jerry
Wouldn’t an LLC be subject to corporate taxes? I think that’s lower than individual income tax, but it’s not nothing. Except when it is nothing, but that’s another topic.
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Brother Of Jerry
The Lakers also took their Minnesota name with them to Los Angeles. And the Dodgers.
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Brother Of Jerry
Exactly. This is about as slam-dunky as it gets. I still appreciate the irony that the crime occurred in Moscow, ID, and the accused was found a few miles from Moscow, PA, which by coincidence is where my grandfather is buried, and near where I grew up. Fun fact: Moscow ID was named after of Moscow PA, and not the one in Russia, by the first postmaster, who was from Moscow, PA. There is s
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
A limited gene pool is part of it. I was at a meet n greet for new residents at a seniors apartment facility run by several local churches, none LDS. There were about ten new residents, and I was thinking that one couple looked extremely LDS. Turned out not only are they LDS, they are currently serving a senior mission in SLC. Besides the gene pool thing, there are a couple of other giveaw
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I see from Nightie’s post that Richard was posting here just last month. Good for him. I’ve had too many friends robbed of their last years by dementia. Richard was one of the foundation stones of the exmo community. I hope his family can keep his website around. It is an invaluable resource. If his website can’t be kept active, I hope it can be subsumed into RFM or some similar site for
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
OMG. That is extremely weird. Hard to believe that an SP was that clueless about normal human boundaries.
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
The LDS church is very American in that it almost perfectly mirrors American corporate values. You are told where your office (I.e. what ward you can attend) is. You are expected to wear the corporate uniform. The LDS dress code is precisely the corporate dress code from the mid 20th century. They have the extra wrinkle of having corporate underwear. Missionaries are a corporate sales forc
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
J Golden Kimball. There were probably others in the first hundred years of Mormonism. But not so much lately.
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
>They used to announce a special stake meeting to address temple stuff. Excellent point. People knew about TGs in the past, and had some vague (probably very vague unless the person had had their endowments) idea of what was in the endowment ceremony. Then Deborah Laake's book Secret Ceremonies came out in 1993 (not positive on year) which gave the first blow by blow description of the end
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3 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
What’s adoption got to do with it? I was born into the family. Does that cancel my right to be angry?
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4 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
It’s the Kirtland Temple. Kirkland is the house brand at Costco, and they may sue for defamation for associating their name with Mormonism! ;)
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4 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Why do you ask?
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Depends on the specific gravity you had in mind.
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I bet the Q15 will never ever announce temple closures in General Conference. But you know its gotta happen someday.
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5 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Three words: Men with brooms.
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6 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Spider, schmider. God is an invisible centipede. Whatever god has the most legs wins. Eight legs, just pathetic.
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6 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Jeez, I turn my back for a few hours, and a revival meeting breaks out. Discussing the finer points of deathbed repentance? Really? Y'all realize that Christian theology is every bit as mythical as Buddhist or Hindu or Zoroastrian theology, and you don't give the tiniest rat's patoot about how Krishna or Buddha feels about deathbed repentance. You consider that 100% irrelevant, no qualms w
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6 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
That's what I'm afraid of. This guy's MIL is well off, and suffering from mild dementia that is of course slowly getting worse. He is her principal caretaker. Losing him through death or loss of health would be a major blow to her.
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Once something gets lodged in El Gato's brain, it is practically impossible to dislodge it, the Great Attractor being a prime case in point. Oh, and Gato, it's kilonova. And we are not just stardust slowed down. Nor are we energy slowed down. We are, however, mostly stardust from past exploded stars. Carbon is not the product of a supernova. It is a typical product of fusion reactions in no
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
A good news story for the week. https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2024/Items/Apr12-7.html "This item is timely, on a personal level, for (Z) because this week would have been his grandmother's 102nd birthday. During World War II, she worked as a riveter, building airplanes in Connecticut. And not only did she and the other "Rosies" have to do the same work as the men, they h
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Ah, yes, the Smiths just outside city limits. I remember that store. Some of the locals were livid, but it did a brisk Sunday business. I saw a similar phenomenon in Texas, where engineers moving in to work at Texas Instruments diluted the Southern Baptist population and legalized alcohol sales. I fully expect as tech companies move into the area near Point of the Mountain, and college edu
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Is this a gullibility test, or what? As a matter of course, I take anything on Ex-twitter with a bag of salt. Ditto anything from Nancy Mace, which makes OP a two-bagger. While I am not familiar with the safeguards for animal research, I am familiar with the safeguards for human research, as a participant in studies, having a family member who engaged in human medical research, and as a med
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
To be fair, I think JS was trying for a media hit with the BoM, and founding a religion was something he stumbled into as a Plan B, when the BoM did not turn out to be a best-seller.
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
I think we need a Hale-Bopp Award to go with the Darwin Award, for people killing themselves over perfectly normal and predictable astronomical events. I am constantly amazed that there are still people who believe in astrology, but then, there are still people who at least claim to believe in a flat earth, an even more absurd proposition. In somewhat related news (people believing the absu
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7 days ago
Brother Of Jerry
Highland, UT is a previously dry city in NE Utah County, and it is very Mormon. It is next to Alpine, UT, and near the entrance to American Fork Canyon and Timpanogos National Monument. The city was only incorporated in 1977, which surprised me. It had 2,400 residents at the time. It now has 20,000. And of course their self-image was that they have "values", so no alcohol allowed, pe
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