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7 years ago
kolonko
I mean I wish. I am not sorry for pranking you. Few seconds of happiness is still something. On more serious note, their cojones big enough for scientology not big enough for LDS. SAD.
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7 years ago
kolonko
Hi, I just saw someone on the board mentioning his fraternal twin brother and it got me thinking about identical twins and their religiosity. Do u have some stories? As identical twins have same dna it would be interesting to know if they react to cults in the same way.
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7 years ago
kolonko
There used to be a cult called Children Of God - The Family, they were active in 70s but because they "loved children" the group was hunted down and broken by governments of many countries. People just didn't tolerate pedos in their neighborhoods. The group still exists but from what I read is very small. Scientology was very active everyone was afraid of them and then bum books, mo
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7 years ago
kolonko
But if you are good and God sends you to hell does not it make him cruel. She goes kind of your logic but than one has to say that either god is cruel sending good atheists to hell or that all those who are in hell are bad people hence atheists are bad people. If one states that "you are good being an atheist (or Jewish for that matter) but you are short of being saved by grace and that is w
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7 years ago
kolonko
My friend is an evangelical christian who believes Bible should be read literally. She is also my boss. Some time ago we were talking, and the subject of evolution was mentioned. In Poland when I grew up Catholicism dominates and as catholic church is not questioning the theory of evolution it is accepted as a fact. In school you learn about it, clergy never question it and in my catholic univers
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7 years ago
kolonko
If you search instagram for modesty you will get plenty of female dresses and photos. I am a guy, no modesty for me? Is it not interesting.
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7 years ago
kolonko
If I was a mormon child I would tell my grandparents "only bike or watch as gift". Than what would the bishop do, take away a freakin wheel?. Ok I do not want a bike why do I need a bike if I have to tithe a wheel out of it. I want a freaking teddy bear. Deal with it LDS. :)
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7 years ago
kolonko
You got it all wrong. LDS is not against those children gaining priesthood it is against them being demoralized by sinful gay parents. They are 12 so they can move out, run away, live on the streets (they will start tithing earlier), or maybe the church will build them compound where they can live with LDS leaders. You know these children are only few dozen months shy of 15 years so if a girl is
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7 years ago
kolonko
Sorry for silly questions but do mormon children have to pay tithing on pocket money. Than if such a child is given allowances from state (or charity) does it have to tithe. Also if someone is adult but disabled, can not work and has money donated by either family, charities or state how about tithing. If one is not receiving pension from state (for example because of living in a failed state) b
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7 years ago
kolonko
That is the thing religion is their culture. There are some countries where if you leave religion you somehow betray your country and tradition. Mostly it pertains to eastern orthodox countries like Serbia, Greece, Romania, Georgia to name ones that come to my mind first. Russia and Ukraine are traditionally Orthodox but first of all they were heavily secularized during 70 years of communism (Uk
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7 years ago
kolonko
They are going in a wrong direction they should go east, pass Brazil and than straight to Palestine. Rest few weeks and than back to Brazil from Palestine and all those who do not believe the truth would be convinced that this is how it was. BOM is true. How about FAIR were they sleeping when someone was planning this travel. Church hierarchy in Bolivia should be fired. Do we still have a tim
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7 years ago
kolonko
My older brother was a first atheist. He was 13 i was 11. Many of my high school friends were atheists. Than I went to a Catholic University and some people were anticlerical atheists some were very deeply religious. I was pretty much agnostic, wanted to be more religious, to believe but it never happened. I came to US as an atheist and people ask me at work after Christmas oh how you spend the
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7 years ago
kolonko
Wasn't on the forum few days so sorry for answering with such a delay. The church in Poland is practically nonexistent. According to LDS data there are 1800 members though of course only small part are active. Cumorah says 300. so it is 300 for 38 mln people. Than I do not know if mishies are included in that number because there are 70 of them so it would make even less. Than many members are
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7 years ago
kolonko
Few months ago Russia enacted laws against proselytism. Since that time pressure on so called non traditional churches has intensified. Jehovah Witnesses are being prosecuted for extremism and threatened with complete ban. Second group that is targeted is ISCON (Hare Krishna). Scientology probably due to their connection with US intelligence is treated in most brutal way of those groups. Just
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7 years ago
kolonko
The use of intermediary in Catholicism is explained by sociologists as easier for people to accept. That is God is so distant has so many problems on his head his the boss of bosses you do not bother him because you lost your keys. You ask the regular guy someone who had body of flesh and bones (to use Mormon speak) to intervene. Clerk at the secretary of state screwed up with your staff, you do
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7 years ago
kolonko
I am an atheist but as a Pole always declare to be ethnically catholic so will try to answer :). Saints are people who were beatified that is church (The Church:) ) recognized that they entered heaven. As those in heaven are in contact with God they can influence his decisions. So they do not make miracles God makes them, sometimes because he was made to by this and that good guy. So people ofte
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7 years ago
kolonko
I read title of the thread and was sure it is off topic and you were refering to this https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/29/turkish-minister-women-laugh-loud-bulent-arinc This turkish minister in islamist government said it is outrageous women laugh loud. Well if he is a closeted mormon (possible US spy) this might have consequences :) I work with one nurse she loughs so much and so
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7 years ago
kolonko
I was just reading a missionary blog and I found this outrageous fragment. "Our investigator working towards baptism is pretty much set to do it before I leave Kato. Unfortunately that could mean all the way til Oct 24, but as long as I'm here for it, I'm happy. One of our other guys is doing really well. He's the one who's too young to get baptized cause he's 16 and his parents don't ap
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7 years ago
kolonko
In Poland Krishnas are quite popular. There are probably more of them there than Mormons. Seen lots of them in the nineties. They go after rebeling teens. I remeber that in Polish paper of record Gazeta Wyborcza they were publishing recipes for vegetarian dishes. They had some crisis years due to raping kids but then they reformed a bit and now they are less destructive for example they do not e
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7 years ago
kolonko
Female players have more freedom than men. The thing is they have choices in what they wear. Acoording to this site http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/82926043/evolution-of-womens-beach-volleyball-uniforms "Players can wear shorts of a maximum length of 3cm above the knee with sleeved or sleeveless tops or a full body suit". FIVB has published its rules. There are even fully covere
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7 years ago
kolonko
Managed to watch only few seconds. Such a loving family everyone loved everyone. All were happy. All were good. Gospel readers helping one another. And than i think about Josh Duggar and I guess the same BS would describe his family. Just that back than no child would complain on a priesthoodholder cousin fingering other children. USA amazes me all the time. Everybody so happy, loving
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7 years ago
kolonko
Gatorman, How can I know a nevermo here. What i read is that yes if you prosecute a group they will develop siege mentality. In Brazil or UK racism was different and u have so many mixed marriages, in USA u have black areas white areas, u have white power and black power. Cops kill blacks, blacks kill cops. Cops feel threatened blacks feel threatened. But this is just my popular psychology 101.
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7 years ago
kolonko
I am not Rusian but Poland was part of Russia for 123 years, later during communism we were in its zone of influence and basically we know this mentality. So situtation in Russia is different than in USA or western Europe. In history lessons in Poland there is often mentioned case of Mr Drzymala who lived in XIX century Germany but becuse of German discrimination was not allowed to build a hom
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7 years ago
kolonko
Let me add MOON FOR MOONIES. Radicalism and conflicts grow in time of crisis. After 1929 we had the same, Nazis in Germany and what many tend to forget there was a spike in lynchings in the South. Now we have Trump going after Latinos an Muslims, National Front in France and beatings of mormons in eastern europe. Damn it is funny that those white and delightesome Utah mormons are being discrim
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7 years ago
kolonko
That is basically situation in Poland. We are not very religious just like Brits but for many people this religion is connected to patriotism. I am an atheist but always say that ethnically I am catholic. Especially younger generation that is now very patriotic sees it that way. I love those nationalists with their slogan "GREAT CATHOLIC POLAND" of course they yell it and than have
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7 years ago
kolonko
Bradley the thing is that CIA probably uses some older (retirees) missioaries in Russia as its helpers (i mean why wouldn't they) plus many american high ranking members in Russian church also might be from time to time used when services need it. LDS is closly connected with army CIA and government. USA has special place in minds of mormons and as mormons so often choose scouting, than army or
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7 years ago
kolonko
Ok so I see it. Most of you are saying that church should pull those kids out of there. I would say more they should stop sanding kids anywhere. The problem is it just will not happen. This is the logic of cults. We are persecuted it is a proof we need to strengthen our efforts. In former communist bloc JWs were simply put to jail because they refused military service. Thousands were in gulags. A
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7 years ago
kolonko
Recently there was a law enacted in Russia banning proselytism outside church buildings. This hurts LDS a lot and of course many of exmos are quite happy with the new regulations. As not only Russia but also many other Eastern European countries like Hungary Poland or Slovakia experience similar trends of growing intolerance hatred toward minorities and violence I decided to write this post and e
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7 years ago
kolonko
I.Dahrooj (04:18:46) : Hello, welcome to edialogue.org ! My name is Ibrahim, I am delighted to be at your service today to talk to you about Islam :). How are you? Shlomo (04:19:07) : Hi i am good how about you? I.Dahrooj (04:19:30) : I am fine , and hope you be always fine :) I.Dahrooj (04:19:40) : How can I help you, Shlomo ? Shlomo (04:20:17) : I have one question about islam is it t
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8 years ago
kolonko
saucie: My BF bought me anewPC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do you always tell people what they can and cannot > say? > > You have issues dude. Work on your self before > you > > dictate to others what they should do or not do . > If I want > > to make fun of HIm because of whatever reason, I'm > entitled. &
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