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1 year ago
slskipper
So they will make it a case of religious liberty.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Your dad is wrong.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Yeah- but already I'm sure Kirton McConkie is preparing briefs challenging the ruling. I will take bets. Loser buys dinner.
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1 year ago
slskipper
And as soon as Pace was gone, McConkie did a complete 180 and started writing books and hymns about how magnificent Jesus was.
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1 year ago
slskipper
I really hate all these claims about the superior mental health imparted by participation in religious institutions. Correlation is not causation. It's called survivor's bias: whoever disagrees is thrown out. Thank you.
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1 year ago
slskipper
really believe? As in: what can you really say in Sunday School that will not get you hauled in to the bishop's office? Examples: the BOM being actual history Examples of any current GA being wrong about something Curse of Cain and hundreds more. The Church (TM) has stopped talking about all of these- and yet if anyone tries to talk about them, they will swiftly be escorted out of the roo
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1 year ago
slskipper
Note: there is no law (as far as I know) that says we have to accept evangelical Protestantism as the only authorized version of everything that is good and right and socially requisite in religion or anything else. I for one never voted for them. Nobody is ever morally obligated to reassure evangelicals nor anybody else that Mormonism is the same as their theology. I really do not understand why
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1 year ago
slskipper
I take your point. However: I refer you to the "original" Grimm's fairy tales. Horrible scenarios. But they were totally fictitious, and they were absolutely told to amuse children- at least as I understand it. So maybe the flood thing was not meant to amuse, but rather to warn. Maybe it was a drama piece. Drama is usually very entertaining without amusing. But either way, I still s
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1 year ago
slskipper
IMO: we make a fundamental mistake when we try to link these stories to actual events. They could just as easily have started out as just entertaining stories, and trying to find the "original" is a fool's errand. Remember that per Plutarch, the Theseus/Minotaur thing probably started out by some guy who had to spend a weekend in a Cretan hoosegow. To repeat: just because something is i
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1 year ago
slskipper
We're lonely because religions keep kicking us out.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Around 1963, there were (IIRC) fifteen temples. One of my fellow Trail Builder Boys repeated his parents' declaration that when the sixteenth temple was built, it would be the one in Missouri and so we were so, so close...
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1 year ago
slskipper
The question turns the facts on their head. The burden of proof is squarely on the claimants. IOW: prove that there is a god.
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1 year ago
slskipper
What book?
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1 year ago
slskipper
It offers a sense of reassurance in a chaotic world. That chaotic world is elsewhere known as reality.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Never mind. I see that the bill would indeed allow Nazi and Confederate flags.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Maybe in the past. But more and more, the top tiers are being filled by those whose principal qualification seems to be wealth. And while their actual "salary" may be reduced, they are rewarded with every comfort a creature could ever imagine.
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1 year ago
slskipper
but not for the rich folks. And the rich folks are the ones at the top making all those rules. There are no rules for the upper leadership. Thank you.
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1 year ago
slskipper
No.It is their consequence for agreeing in the first place. They all know what they are getting into. They all decided they would trade all the adulation and lavish lifestyle for whatever happens later. Please note: none of this applies to their wives.
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1 year ago
slskipper
The terrifying fact is that they actually believe this.
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1 year ago
slskipper
We all know that all this is the triumph of Ezra T. Benson's takeover of Mormonism. Fluoridation, like everything else in his world, was a Communist plot. *Anything* emanating from "The Government" was a Communist plot, and a cursory review of the Utah legislature makes it obvious that their whole mission this year was to establish Benson/Skousenism as the only legitimate basis for gove
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1 year ago
slskipper
They already do. It's called the Second Anointing. And it's all about being a super donor.
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1 year ago
slskipper
That "doctrine" is as permanent as any other "doctrine" spouted by them. It can vanish overnight.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Oh, lots and lots. But you are never allowed to ask them about any of them.
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1 year ago
slskipper
It would be so different if the buildings were "ours". They are not "ours"- they are "theirs". We are asked to clean rich people's indulgences.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Humanities people need to be trained in the sciences. Hard sciences, like analytical chemistry where the answer is either right or it is wrong. It is well past the time when scientific training gets relegated to a social punchline.
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1 year ago
slskipper
Every talk will be a recounting of the speakers' immediate spiritual encounter with Jesus. Every talk will express how incredibly ecstatic they felt at the moment when they accepted Jesus into their hearts and thereby received a remission of all their sins. Note that they will never, ever say what those sins actually are (like lying to the SEC or making young missionaries feel like sh!t). No, the
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1 year ago
slskipper
Call me when they say that in Sacrament Meeting.
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1 year ago
slskipper
I used to have a couple of sailboats at the Great Salt Lake. Maybe I'll get another one someday.
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1 year ago
slskipper
I lived in Oz around 1990. At the bookstore next to the Sydney temple they were selling Tabernacle Choir CDs. One of them was "God Bless America". I do not kid.
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