THIS WAS ONE OF MY 1ST CLUES THE CHURCH WASNT "TRUE". To paraphase Christs teachings in the NT. When God separates the wheat from the chat. THE chaft asks why they arent accepted he says; when I was in prison you didnt visit me. When I was Sick you didnt visit me When Ia was hungry you would feed me. In the Churches eyes we are all foder for the Kingdom. Need Help!?! See ya later!
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Yah.WCG. I'd say that describes them to a "T"! Creepy ! Freudian slipp?? What I want to know is why Instead of doing like the savior described of leaving the 90 & 9 to save the one. They haunt it down harrass it, And if caught (metaphorically speaking) Kill it and skin it !?!
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I agree. I always thought it was wierd that they had 15 too. Doesnt look like what they refer to as "the primative church" either.
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SORRY YOURE FED UP! I always like your posts. So some dip wad disagrees w/you. dont give em that much power! I can completely idenify w/what your saying about faking it! Ive thought of going to church to stopp the harrassment here. But Im just not that good a liar! I cant fake smiles and pretend that I believe & Its all ok!!! Dont feel bad this is the perfect place to rant!
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Do men really stay in the church cuz they figure theyll get multiple wives in heaven??? Ive seen some VERY smart men who will completely deny all facts about the church. Scientific, Finanical,Historical Facts!! And They Will Still Bear their testimony!!!
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PROBABLLY the reason why City Creek (It always reminds me of South Parks "shitty wok" &"shitty wall" tee hee) Is that the rumour that CC offered Apple Computers 5yrs. free rent if they moved over. CC declined to answer the rumours. But Apple moved over shortly after! TAH DAH!!!
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Sounds like an abusive relationship to me. YOU NEED TO GET OUT A THERE!! CALL A SHELTER AND TALK TO THEM. Get as much info as possible. and GET OUT!! It doesnt matter who started what or what happened yrs ago! HE NOT GETTING BETTER AND NIETHER ARE YOU. ITS NOT A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP! If he wants to go to utah let em! You stay there!
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I THINK THEYRE ALL LIARS!! From the men on top down!! My ex was a world class liar. He could do with a staight face. And when Id find out he,d just say "thats what u get" like it was my fault for believing him. I even saw his new wife bragg about lieing to sell a car! And laughing about how they ripped people off!! If they arent lieing to others, THEYRE LIEING TO THEMSELVES! ITS THE ONL
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THE THING IS Im on disability. I live on 700mo. If I take a greyhound It will eat into what i need for a place.Any place out side of Ut is over 18 hrs by bus. (Ive checked) If Im up more than 15 hrs I have seizures.! My TBM family wont help me leave. Infact I think theyre hopin if I stay,I'll repent & go back to church.
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IS THERE ANYONE IN Utah that moving out of state that wants to take an apostate w/em??? I Cant take it here anymore and feel like Im going to die!!!
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Heres a suggestion. Since you know your worthy, and your family knows youre worthy. Just Go home,Have your loved ones over and DO IT YOURSELF!! It will probably be more spiritual that way anyway! Bear in mind as a female apostate I may have missed a piont. But REALLY , ISNT IT ABOUT FAMILIES!?!
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IRONICALLY; This was a big factor in my leaving. I had heard stories about them harrassing apostates. It just made me more sure they werent working for God. I dont see why God would want to scare,threaten or harrass a person! It contradicts everthing Jesus taught in the NT.!
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BEAUTIFULLY PUT!! The problem w/the people is all they see are the attractive front. whte shirts. clean looking people. beautifully landscaped building. And talkes about doing the rite thing. They dont see the lies & manipulations. They tell them they believe in the constitution. In reality they want theogracy. they say it was inspired to bring forth the gospel.But they dont believe in freedo
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YOU GOT TO PAY fOR THAT POWER!!! No tithing:no power!! Thats what it sounds like to me.Hmmmm...Wasnt there something about that in the templ?
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PERSONALLY I would love to tell why I left. But Im shunned so that saves the church some embarrassment. Second it would take a book. The One (&only one who ask me) I told it was abuses of power. To make it short
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I AM AMAZED AT THEIR SELF APPOINTED ATHORITY! If I wore a tiarra and carried a septure it wouldnt make me queen! While I dont concider ministers infallable. Its my understanding that they attend a divinity school. Learn hebrew & Greek and know the scriptures. Not some guy w/a bussiness degree that gets picked cause hes popular! Geeze.
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WELCOME! You dont need to apologise for a thing THIS IS EXACTLY the place to be! Im so sorry you have to put up w/that stuff.Its outragous! But saddly its not unusual for them. The others are right;go to your parents first & asks them to intervene.If they are as understanding as u say they should put a stop to it. Save the texts to show them! If you can get a copy of it in print to document t
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EWWWEWWWEWWW all I can think to say! I honestly dont remember anything like that. But It seem I hear simular 2nd hand stories! Ewww
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I AGREE W/RAISINGspecialneeds, alittle religion from 1400 miles away wont hurt. If she starts insisting its the one & only than youve got a problem. YOUVE GOT a nice buffer zone there so I wouldnt worry too much. If you do tell her;do it when the kids wont be an issue;eg not around xmass time or easter. Give her time to deal w/it.. But if u can put it off GO AHEAD, Youve got a nice buffer zon
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WoooooW!! Really! THEY got more guts than a Xmass Turkey! To Open a multi billion dallar mall & ask members to clean bathrooms! Now lower the mishie age (unexspectedly) & ask for donations!!! Wow just wow.
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LOL!! I Just Gotta Laugh!! By this guys standard Heaven must be the most boring, Bland as Oat meal place.
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LOVE YOUR STORY! Congrats to Tina,Bob & Chad!!
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ITS BEEN OVER TWEENTY YEARS. But I feel there still a ripple affect. He always taught us to beleive in the church (no matter what)I dont think it ever occured to him that the church wouldnt believe in us, or be there for us.
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Thankyou. Yeah she was devastated! He hadnt been able to keep up his life insurance,so when he died; She HAD NOTHING. He was a very old fashioned .an & wouldnt allow her to work outside of the home. So she came to live w/us for a while & my bro.. But we were all thrown by the whole thing!
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WOW Super research! Steller responses! Can u get this out to the lds community? Maybe if they knew this wasnt acceptable theyd speak up. Kudos to the christian community!
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HERES IS THE NUMBER FOR the YWCA, I already called them.And asked them if it matters that your an adult child being abused by her father. She didnt thinkso! (801)537-8600! Its the crisis line. she said if your not in the area she can hook you uo w/another one close to you!
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PS. I ment to say shelters ARNT that bad. the first night at the ywca was the best nites sleep ever! Where abouts do you live? If your in the slc area I think I can help you! If you want I'll call the shelters for you. Get the info. Dont worry about them laughing at you. Even if they dont listen,they are people you'll never see again. I have a apt w/no spare bed but u can sleep on the florr if u
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My dad was a good man. (my mom not) But this is about him & how he spend his life for tscc. He sent my bro. on a mission only to get back a sick & broke boy. Than came the medical bills. He took a second out on his home to pay tithing to see his only daughter get married in the temple. He gave his time and talents training the missionaries. He paid for mothers day flowers for the ward.He
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THEY WONT TURN YOU AWAY CUZ HES YOUR DAD! As long as youve been under the same roof for six months You qualify!! The shelters are that bad. AT least not in ut.or wa (I dont know others) They have case workers and supper vissors to keep an eye on things. The YWCA is an excellent & supportive place to be. It was the 1st place I when to.They have good counsellors. You DONT HAVE to File a Police
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I FEEL so bad about everything your say. I want to help you. Can u go to a domestic violence shelter? They often will cout emotional abuse. I went the yw.wnen my ex killed a bird infront of me! Make a plane. All the stuff Hes telling you is BS. He doesnt want you to leave. Dont wait for the next time YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!! Dont apply for SS til you out. He will keep it! And they give mo
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