I questioned this to Sunday school teachers. I didn't want to be with ceryain family members in Heaven, since we were so dysfunctional. I was told God would sort it out in the afterlife. I secretly thought it was bs that good families got to be together and be happy and dysfunctional ones would be fixed later. I felt lik it was denying the problem, which was offensive.
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True enough, at least I'm purged of living a lie. There's the silver lining :). I guess maybe happy wasn't the word I should have used. Fulfillment is a better way to describe what I'm looking for in life. I want to affect the world on a larger scale. To me that means working for an organization and being respected and admired by those I work with. I want to have earned respect through my ideas a
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Thank you, summer :). I always appreciate your advice. I am currently attending Robert Morris University. I chose to attend because of a scholarship, which would make earning a BA degree much more affordable for me. Unfortunately, the scholarship is dependent on the campus, and there is only one degree (Management) offered at my campus. Aside from working with people, management is not my stro
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I'm extremely upset with the way my life is turning out. The years go by so fast. Every time I thoroughly research my options, seek out advice, come to a conclusion, and act on my decision, life proves me wrong! I'm 5 years of of high school and I've accomplished NOTHING with my life. Here's what I've done since high school: -Community College - Earned an Associate in Arts degree, no debt -Q
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You can and should tell her why you have doubts, since she asked and it clears the air. But I'd forego details right now. She is having a hard enough time right now, so the details would likely make her panic more. She'd probably get defensive because it's a direct stab to her beliefs, which when strong, it's easy for anyone to take an affront to. I'd say something like, "I have issues with
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How obnoxiously melodramatic of him. Sounds like an attention seeker. Everything is exaggerated with the weirder Mormons. Probably makes them feel extra special. He probably wanted to create a dramatic story for a sacrament meeting talk.
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On point. Definitely a pyramid scheme. My assumption was that if some of them are not in on it for the money, they are delusional or have a skewed view of God. I suppose everyone that high up would have to know, since they advance when one dies, and that no secrets are kept by the first presidency from the other 12. Is it safe to assume the other 55 GAs are in on it too? Where does the secrecy st
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I know it's been asked on here before, but I'm dying to come to a final conclusion. Based on the podcast someone on here posted a couple days ago, featuring a PR advisor for the church, I am inclined to believe it's all about money. I remember the court case in the UK(?) being telling of true intentions as well, but can't remember the details (can someone give me the gist?). If anyone else feels
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My LDS friend and I had a chance to talk today. I asked her about a very liberal member friend who we used to go to church with, who now identifies as agnostic and probably rarely attends. The agnostic girl easily passes for your average young adult. She is out living life, meaning she is not living a Mormon lifestyle. I asked my friend if this girl still has the Holy Ghost. She said yes, she sti
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What is the difference between Jehovah and Elohim? I see that they are both listed as Hebrew names for God. Is there a distinction? These things make me curious.
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Thank you :)
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After all I've read about the church's history, I know that it is more likely than not, a lie. When I went back, I realized the church had a foundation built on bs. It took no effort to sift through the bs, since it is the majority of what is taught. It's like someone turned on the lights and you can see everything for what it really is. Even I wasn't expecting to feel such a 180 the second time
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The way you phrased everything makes Mormonism sound like a monopoly game :) No premarital sex, secret back door, no drinking, lose celestial kingdom privileges and drop to terrestrial, advance up after getting married, collect $200, and 2nd annointing is Boardwalk.
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My sister just got married to her fiancé of a few years. I just noticed a pattern with him: he talks down to me. He is much older than me. The other day he told me to thank my mom for paying for the wedding dinner. He was condescending and talked to me like a child. A couple months ago he didn't want me to come to his family's holiday party, even though his parents who were hosting it wanted me
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I had a Muslim friend who described marriage the way you did, in terms of making it work. Your very last sentence speaks volumes in truth. At one point I was the person in the relationship who worked hard to meet half way to make things work. Getting the partner to budge an inch took tons of effort, then they acted like they were amazing, when in reality nothing was truly resolved. I'm all for re
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Interesting about the scissors. I wonder if they chose scissors for a specific reason or if it was completely random and to look profound. Scissors need two opposing blades to function as one (specific gender roles?). They are more efficient at cutting through paper or reaching the end goal, as opposed to a single blade. Scissors are useful, but also dangerous (watch out for Mormon power couples.
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I need to start thinking the way you just described! What happens is I internalize how I am feeling and know what's happening is terrible, but I forget to put it into words to fully acknowledge what is going on. Seeing the words is just as important. The reality is, while they don't intentionally try to hurt me, they don't understand how unfair they are being. But regardless of intentions, it is
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Hi BallaBoy234 :) I'm sorry for your predicament. I know what you mean about struggling to find yourself and not letting other people tell you how to define yourself. It's definitely a process breaking free, but you are well on your way to getting there! :) What I suggest is learning to feel comfortable in the world. Just comfortable, for now. It takes time and patience to feel fully confid
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I appreciate what you wrote. This is what I am currently dealing with. It hurts coming from friends. My labels are a little different though. To them I am worldly, lost, and not spiritual. In one word, inferior. No Holy Ghost = No compass, comfort, or love from God. I am talked to as if I know the church is true, but that I'm being defiant for not joining. Seriously, who the f*** thinks "
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My friend got back from her mission a couple weeks ago. She's doing great! It's been nice to see her again. Since she's returned, I decided to do an experiment. She's been inviting me to church, so I was curious to see if I'd view it differently as an adult a few years later and with a little more real life experience. There's a huge difference in how I see TSCC now compared to before. I un
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Haha. You understand my frustration.
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Thanks for the reply. It was enlightening. Religion is one of those touchy topics, however, I'll keep an eye out if my friend shuts out all non-positive LDS ideas. The best answer I've gotten from her with similar issues is "I don't know," but I'll still take that over "they're lying" when she won't bother to validate the "lies."
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Thanks for your suggestion. It sounds better. Sometimes I come on stronger than intended. Especially in the case of Mormons, "anti" information has to be super sugar-coated. I forgot about sugar-coating, having a tendency to get right to the point.
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Another person mentioned on here how exchanging well-documented church history with TBMs is seen as an affront to hardcore Mormons. This is the problem I'm having lately. I'm enjoying being pen pals for now with my missionary friend until she returns home, but then she raised the question of if I'm reading the BoM. No. Never again. However, I have been reading about church history. MormonThink
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Back when I attended church, I got along well with another girl in Sunday school. We talked often, and one day she told me her dad would get angry and hit her. She's a wonderful person, but did a lot of "unworthy" things (wear shorter skirts, smoke, pre-marital sex), which was partly why he'd hit her. I was surprised and sad to hear this, since on the outside, she seemed close and happy
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If you plan to go to the dinner, I'd write them another email. Call them out on their crap! It's not fair that they get to call all the shots, with no considerations for the friendship. I'd mention how supportive you were during their very serious crisis, so they could at least offer compassion for your new life change too. Your "friends" sound unreasonable, if they couldn't try to unde
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I'd also take a homeless shelter over this too :(. The biggest problem is, I'm not settled into my career yet to move out and make money. My second biggest issue is not having a car.
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Hello. I've been at my breaking point with this problem for awhile now. I don't know what to do about my verbally abusive older brother anymore. I'm sick of his ****. He's the most corrosive, mean-spirited, manipulative, apathetic person I've ever known. He tries to control my parents by running the house, and will insult me, trying to tear me apart any chance he can get. I don't stir anything up
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Sunglasses are banned on missions? Why?? I'd want to protect my eyes on a sunny day.
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