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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
I stupidly used to think to myself: when Smith got to whole block quotes of Isaiah, he was inspired to translate them more or less as they read in the KJV so that people could know that that part of the Bible was translated correctly enough for God's purposes. So, he had this ancient record with perhaps some of the purest in terms of accuracy transcriptions of Isaiah ever made with human hands, a
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
That's the kind of talk that ensures there will be a civil war which for the one side will also be like a religious crusade and a conquering of the heathen. Also, you lose 70% of the side you imagine yourself to be on when you talk like that, because those people are still Christian, just with far more tolerable politics. I appreciate more every day what a cultural accomplishment the enlighte
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZJhcQSOSs&ab_channel=AssociatedPress Best comment: "If this guy makes it to heaven, the rest of us are going to be fine."
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
https://news.yahoo.com/news/195-house-republicans-voted-against-154820845.html To be clear, we're not talking not your right to have access to birth control and contraceptives through your health insurance. No, it's just the freedom to use it at all. Clarence Thomas expressed his desire to come for the SCOTUS rulings protecting gay marriage, sodomy (which is oral or anal sex even when straight
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
It’s a win, but there shouldn’t be so many still against it when the issue is 71% support in the public’s view. I thought eventually we’d accept the consensus and use our finite time on the floor of congress to talk about, I don’t know, our crumbling infrastructure or something. But instead we have to spend all of our energy keeping our rights away from theocrats who have way more power
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/07/157-republicans-voted-marriage-equality/ This is despite marriage equality reaching a high assent of 71% among Americans. https://news.gallup.com/poll/393197/same-sex-marriage-support-inches-new-high.aspx Impressions and reflections: My brother says he can live without the right to “marry” as long as they let him have a “civil union.” He doesn
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/06/27/chris-hedges-fascists-in-our-midst/
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
What are you people even TALKING ABOUT? I defended the pro-choice position from a labor rights perspective in an idle mood, and suddenly we’re talking about how I don’t listen to women and how I’m a fine example of the shit that women generally put up with. You know what I think is that the room simply turned against me thanks to a stoking few and since I’m as good a punching bag as any f
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
Then go read it again. I think you took my title, which was only phrased that way to get attention, and took it at face value and then read it into all the places where it wasn’t. Further, what do you know of what it’s like to be me every single day? I talk about it often, but I barely scratch the surface. I can’t read people and they can’t read me. This is almost gotten me shot b
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
My post was addressed to conservatives primarily or to nobody in particular. What’s the word for witch hunting but for men? Spot the chauvinist? Summer, I’m enraged because my post cannot remotely be construed the way it was taken and yet there were sixty comments under it to that affect. So I doled out some actual offense so that people can know what I sound like when I’m being a delib
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
See my Gallup poll above. Not all women are sad about this. My mother isn’t. My sister-in-laws aren’t. But my liberal friends are processing this as a devastating statement about their worth as women to a male-dominated society. I’m sad about it personally, because of the cultural division it is causing and how powerless I feel to make both sides of the culture divide reconcile. I’m p
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
BofJ, just shut up. There’s not a man alive who hasn’t violated the rules you would have them keep to be considered good men.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
I was listening to something JBP was saying about how the most remarkable difference between the archetypical male and female minds was that men are more object-oriented where women are more people-oriented. I think the species needs both mindsets in order survive and Mother Nature did alright, but it sets us at variance with one another. I think when a guy is pontificating on a thing that affect
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
You were. Thank you. I tried to keep my tone towards you respectful as well.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
The sons of men are all born from women. This is deeply personal for everyone. According to a Gallup poll: most people who support Roe support it only with stipulations respecting viability. It’s a minority of Americans, even women specifically, who blanket support the right for any reason at any stage. A large amount of women support Roe as a necessary evil but identify as pro-life. The vie
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
I have never talked to any woman like that before, but I don’t know what else to say to the people who take it upon themselves to be the troll under the bridge. Perhaps cis/het men like me will never understand properly the anxiety being felt right now by people with wombs, but that doesn’t mean we don’t sympathize or wouldn’t fix this if we could.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
In the last decade, I have become a vile, vulgar, and verified egoistical person compared to the young man who went on his mission. But there are reasons for that: I have been mind-screwed six ways till Sunday for realizing the church was not true. I was, from my point of view, just being honest with myself and with others, and I found out that no good deed goes unpunished. Nobody cares about me
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
You do NOT speak for all women, and I am NOT angry because you’re a woman. I’m angry because you’re conceited, you get a ruse out of painting even your male allies as the villains, and you don’t go away. I’m not your enemy as a woman. I’m here on this board because the last thing I ever wanted was a subservient women, but what you do has a name in modern parlance — trolling. You too
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
I’m sorry this happening. I never meant convey seriously that I’m pro-this. I’m just angry my point is being misrepresented and I don’t think I’m helping my image. The title of my post was nothing more than click bait, and it worked very well apparently.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
I keep forgetting you’re all generations out of touch with the anxiety that actually-fertile people are feeling right now.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
Let’s riot already then. What are we waiting for? If you don’t put on the maximum pressure right now, it will be years and years before you get those rights back.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
The legal issue and the political fight are two very separate creatures, and the political fight is going to rule the day.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
Cool, but none of that reasoning matters because in effect the constitution is whatever the current regime of little Caesars in black robes say it is, and you lost that fight. The court already got stacked with maniacs. It’s done, and we saw what they’re planning to do. So, what do we do now? I can tell you that from what I see there is absolutely no sympathy in Trump country for the argument
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
That last paragraph would have sufficed. I don’t think you appreciate just how much progress has been made where now in some instances the pendulum has swung perhaps too far, which is why feminism lost enough popular sympathy that the pro-lifers won the day. What I mean by a feminist stereotype is that feminists nowadays, at least the latest iteration, are seen as selfish, bratty, entit
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
Forgive me for saying, but that’s like the very oldest days. I guess Mexico didn’t modernize until very recently. Lol. The college is getting bigger. There’s a temple of our Lord sitting just outside of town on the way to Safford. Mt Graham recently had a devastating forest fire. I don’t know much about the comings and goings of individuals who currently live there. I just know the to
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
The way the real world works is that you’re about to lose your right to abortion if you live in a red state. So all of your sanctimonious bullshit is for nothing. Also, your double standards are showing: “responsibility” is exactly why they’re doing this to your rights. That’s their reasoning, and they’re more committed to that logic completely than you are.
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
The way this is going to hurt poor families is the best argument you can make right now. The quality of American life, even among white men, is declining right now for the time in our national history. You have no power or political will to actually stop the high court, and you have no arguments that land with the other side either. The way you argue is lazy. You seem to think you’re entitled t
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
Baby boomers exist in such numbers (hence the name) because the good Christian folk of the Greatest Generation took the postwar economic boom of the 50s, which mostly benefited the working and middle classes of the time because of the New Deal policies which hadn’t been hollowed out yet, to buy houses and have lots of kids. But when the Boomers came of age, they realized that the boundless oppo
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1 year ago
Cold-Dodger
It tenchically and literally and financially and psychologically wouldn’t “be as bad” if adequate social services existed. You haven’t refuted that logic. My implicit argument is that since they services don’t exist and since there is no political will on the Roght to provide them, think about the crisis we’re about to create and consider leaving Roe in place and the only viable way t
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