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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@ificouldhietokolob, Name calling is not a valid argument. It just makes you seem childish and unsophisticated.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
The link says the Imagine Dragons lead Dan Reynolds did a documentary criticizing the LDS Church. The documentary is called "believer" and it will be shown on HBO. http://www.heraldextra.com/entertainment/movies/sundance/imagine-dragons-lead-confronts-the-lds-church-his-church-in/article_a8e80d9b-d7a8-50f8-a47e-9827983cde27.html
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
That is hard to say. I can tell you that 25% of the Bible is the New Testament and the New Testament is all about Jesus.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
How did these people get into College to begin with?
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Just like with politics. Some people just cant handle the truth. Instead of accepting the evidence at face value they say they are offended and / or throw temper tantrums. Of course that doesnt change the facts. It just shows that they have an emotional issue with what you are saying to them. Mormons have serious emotional issues when it comes to their religion.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Ironically the Bible warns against false prophets claiming to see Jesus in a secretive area like the Mormon Temples. Matthew 24:26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not." Once again the Bible tells us not to believe in Mormonism.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Joseph Smith wanted to be a drone too.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@PostMormon, its a tough crowd with a mob mentality.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@ificouldhietokolob, You say words have meaning but you ignore the fact that many atheists on this very thread are saying that atheism isnt defined by the dictionary or any ones opinions about it. The hypocrisy here is unreal. An atheist puts out a definition of atheism. It is proven to be illogical so the atheist changes the definition. But wait. Other atheists arent comfortable with the
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@Dave the Atheist Throw in some foul language too. That is how Richard Dawkins will know you are really smart and serious.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@Dave the Atheist, merely asking a question isnt evidence. Apparently, Richard Dawkins considered atheism and rejected it. Its easy to doubt anything. You dont have to even research it. Just because you doubt something doesnt make you correct either. You doubt religions you have never heard of or even understand. Maybe you should email Richard Dawkins and tell him how he got the definition
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
Considering that Richard Dawkins is no longer an atheist because he "cant be sure God doesnt exist." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9102740/Richard-Dawkins-I-cant-be-sure-God-does-not-exist.html then either Richard Dawkins is not rational or atheism is not rational.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@elderolddog, I was focusing on the Book of Abraham till SL Cabbie went on his politically correct tirade.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@elderolddog, maybe you did need a DNA test to convince yourself you are human... everyone else does it to see their racial heritage. That is the point of a DNA test obviously...
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, once again you have completely missed the point. The point was that the Egyptians were closely related to the Anatolians who were white. I know that triggers you but its true. That is what the article says. I just gave another example of the Caucus Mountains because you seemed to be in such denial about the fact that whites lived in the middle east. Also you called me racist which
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, See. I asked you for evidence that there was another racial group in ancient Egypt and this is how you reply.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@Amyjo, "There is not yet enough evidence to make a definitive judgment" That article was from years ago and now there is definitive evidence in the form of DNA tests published in scientific papers.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, just another straw man trying to put words in my mouth. I never said they were "White and Delightsome". I just said they were white. White is a racial group. I know that triggers you but it is true. I know you are triggered and need to calm down. People get DNA tests all the time that tell them what race they are. Ok. You dont have to start cussing about it.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, you are the only one coming up with straw man arguments, being insulting, cussing, trying to use "I said so" as an argument, etc... All I said was the articles say that the Egyptians were closely related to Anatolians and Europeans. Since they are CLOSELY related then they are the same race because that is the definition of what RACE is! A race is a group of people who a
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, you are the one jumping to conclusions with no evidence. I pointed out that they were white with evidence. I never said 1,300 years = 3,000 years. That is just another childish straw man argument. Everyone knows 1,300 years doesnt equal 3,000 years. If you could rise above your childish insults and straw man arguments then we could get somewhere. Unless you can provide evidence fo
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, No. I am not closed minded. You just make poor arguments. Your argument that the only way "race" can exist is if there are people who are 100% of a race just doesnt hold up. We live in an imperfect world where things arent black or white or 100% one way or another. If a person is 90% race A and 10% race B then they are said to be of race A. A race is just a group of peopl
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, In the USA. People say that a person is European if they are related to European ancestry even though they have never been to Europe. The same goes for many people who are called African even though they have never been to Africa. Same goes for Asians who might have been born and raised in the USA but are still called Asian even though they have never been to Asia. I was simply us
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@6 Iron, you might like this "Is Mormonism Biblical?" playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSjFMcvHP8&list=PL3HAPlxVnqt0bnhSPQRH6haGHlUXvKm37
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@Shummy, well SL Cabbie is clearly triggered and on a social justice crusade. He now claims that the Caucasian race never existed and that race doesnt even exist. He completely ignores the fact that the Anatolians were whites living in the Middle East who later populated Europe as they immigrated west. He completely ignores the fact that the articles link the Egyptians to the Anatolians and E
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, you obviously lack the maturity to have a real discussion. You call names. You try to act condescending but that isnt an argument. You misrepresented what I said and what the articles say. That isnt an argument either. You are just childish and immature. When you lose the argument you keep changing the subject. First it was they arent the same race and now you claim race do
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@Anon :/, You said "That means, as Cabbie noted, that early Egyptians and Europeans have a common ancestor. That does NOT mean that these Egyptians descended from Europeans, and it doesn’t mean that Europeans descended from these Egyptians." Yes, that is what I meant. The point is if they are all closely related then they are the same race. Cabbie was trying to make it sound like t
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@Anon :/, it is most like that whites living in the Middle East immigrated in all directions ending up in Europe, Russia, and Egypt. They didnt bother moving further into Africa or the Arabian Peninsula because they were barren deserts.
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@Anon :/, "but you keep saying they were 'white Europeans', meaning they were descended from white Europeans, which is not true" Except that isnt what I meant. This discussion wasnt about who came first the Europeans or the Egyptians. I was simply pointing out what the Article said. That the Egyptians were closely related to the Anatolians and Europeans. I never said the Europeans st
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, you said "/Remedial Geography Lesson: The Near East is not Europe, period. Neither is the Levant nor Asia Minor (there's a reason they call it Asia,honest). One more time: Note the existence of the Mediterranean Sea." You shouldnt be teaching anyone geography. The Near East includes the Levant and Asia Minor. The Near East, as I said before, is another name for the M
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6 years ago
isthechurchtrue
@SL Cabbie, The article says "historically and archaeologically documented contacts, including the large-scale immigration of Canaanite populations, known as the Hyksos, into Lower Egypt, whose origins lie in the Middle Bronze Age Levant." You took this to mean that the people living in Lower Egypt were of another race yet where is your proof of what race the Hyksos were? You j
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