You got it. It's "the chickens have come home to roost". To keep up their MLM pyramid scheme, they have to branch out. But, outside of Utah, their heavy handed tactics don't work. Their global temple construction is only for the top guys to financially benefit. It has nothing to do with church growth. The internet is killing the mormon church.
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"BTW, the Church still discriminates against women. That also poses zero threat to their tax-exempt status. I know "they're going to lose their tax-exempt status" is an RFM wet dream. Get over it." It's not written policy. Like their LBGTQ policy was. Or their Blacks on the priesthood ban. No member of the Westboro baptist church was a lawsuit threat. Unlike the LDS church.
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The church never apologizes. Remember? Especially in this case where an apology will open them up to hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuit payouts. It's all about liability.
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Looking for a reversal on the whole "Satan loves LDS and Mormon names" thing too.
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"This is a good thing. If you're going to be mormon, despite how obviously false it is, then the more changes like this the better." Yeah, but what's to stop the next drooling octogenarian to change it back?
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They are not going to show anyone anything. Don't ask questions, just bow your head and say yes.
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Ha!
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We know it's not revelation. We know their policy was a clusterfuck that drew a lot of unwanted attention. We know the church is never wrong. We know the church never apologizes. So? What changed their minds? My guesses are threefold. One, their discriminatory practices risked losing their tax exempt status. Two, they were losing existing members and the youth's future market. Or three, Utah ha
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Just in, Church changing their name. Again. "We will now be known as "The Church of Jesus Christ and Lotta Gay Saints". That is all."
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https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/04/04/lds-church-dumps-its/ No word if this is a "revelation" or a PR decision.
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I don't think it's high on their list. Compliance, Yes. Unquestioned loyalty, Yes Tithing,Of Course. I don't think they care how much members respect them, just do the above 3 and they're good.
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"Jesus wants me for a Submachine gun"?
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https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/04/02/lds-church-planning-new/ Nothing says "Jesus loves you" like a church owned armed militia.
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http://mormontraumamama.com/
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Yeah, but a lot of people a naturally smart. Smart enough to see through your BS. If you want to post about the leadership of a cult, just do it. Your doctor analogy and supposed repairman is not needed.
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Wendy is the vampire feasting on the head vampire. They both suck.
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You let the foxes into the hen house. Mormons will use any favor that they do for you to guilt you into further meetings. It's like a crack dealer giving out free crack to 1st time users to get you hooked. Now, your going to have to be rude to get them to go away. It's like The Godfather. Now, they make you believe you owe them. Cut it off now and forever.
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"How Russell is Receiving Revelation Today" He bought a crystal radio kit from Radio Shack.
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It's still frowned upon in Utah. That's what makes them so susceptible to MLM scams. Stay at home while making easy money in your spare time! Just sign up and hand over a check. Let's get started!
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Mostly agree. However, for those that live in the theocracy in Utah, where "the" church controls the State and most of the politicians, it makes it difficult. When they use their word of wisdom to pass and enforce laws on Utahn's, it becomes a blurred line. When politicians, who are also Stake Presidents and govt. department heads, get caught stealing or commit other crimes, that should
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Well, when the people you ask, all belong to the same club, you're going to get the same response. Go to the police station and ask for a supervisor. But, make sure he's telling the truth. BTW, did you ask why the kid meant by "That's what you get"? Was he fouling intentionally?
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The point is/was, that despite all the proclamations, declaration, prophecies, and press releases, the rest of the world is still calling "mormons", "mormons".
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Well, I guess not. If they're are no more mormons, there are no more mormon missions. Which brings up the question, if you WERE a mormon missionary, before the prophetic name change, are you still a RMM or are you a RCOJCOLDSM?
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Watching Utah St. v Washington play in the NCAA Tourney. CBS/TBS/TNT announcers must not have heard that they're no mormons any longer. Announcer, commenting on a Utah State player's age. "Yeah, but he spent 2 years on his mormon mission". Ha!
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Wow. Kind of a dick. That's what parents do, they help their kids if and when they can. Telling your kid not to touch a hot stove burner, because it will cause serious damage and pain, is the right thing to do vs. "letting them figure it out for themselves". Especially if you can cut through miles of red tape and bureaucracy of government agencies. You could probably start a small, loca
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Not to insult your intelligence, but this needs repeating. You do understand the purpose of a mission-right? It's to indoctrinate the missionary into a lifetime of paying tithing. You get that-right? The church is a 100 billion dollar MLM. With vast financial and real estate holdings. They don't care if a missionary converts 15 suckers from "shit hole countries", that can't pay tithing.
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Well, two things. You're right- the FLDS and other splinter groups live the religion closer to Joe Smith and Briggy Young's mormonism, than today's LDS church. But, all mormons and exmo's are not complicit. I know many mormons that were always told that much of real church history was an "anti mormon" lie. Even with the CES letter and the church essays, on the church website, they refus
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I'm betting they'll let the story fade without much comment. No way to put a positive spin on their getting kicked out of Russia.
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Going home. I hope they "detain" two more,(treating them well) until ChurchCo gets the message. https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900061355/russia-releases-two-latter-day-saint-volunteers-after-nearly-three-weeks-in-jail.html
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It's obvious that Nelson is a narcissistic attention whore. Changing "LDS" and "Mormon". Throwing himself a big birthday bash,etc. Meeting with the Pope and getting his picture circulated was probably on his bucket list. He couldn't get the publicity on his own, that he got with meeting the Pope. Nelson, ala Trump, would throw himself a military parade down West Temple if he t
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