missions are valuable for TSCC because missions produce returned missionaries it's the marriage and baby hungry young women that has kept and will keep Mormonism alive take RMs out of the equation and the whole thing falls down in one generation
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many here have been through the same thing so i'm sure you will get some good advice in my case it was my parents and i had to completely cut them off for almost a year (this was encouraged by my therapist) during that time i learned that while i would like to have a relationship with them i actually did NOT need a relationship with them there is a sort of paradox there - some people (your
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nobody told me to talk up the mission experience - not sure if that's the norm i think there are two reasons why it happens: 1. saying you had a bad mission feels the same as saying you were a bad missionary 2. after 730 straight days of polishing a turd it's just a habit
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and the testicle festival
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well played, sir.
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for the sake of your own sanity don't look into things like corporate welfare, tax loopholes for the 'investor class' etc.
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pathfinder makes a good point - if you think you are in a sticky situation now just imagine what it would be like after baptism - there will be a constant stream of ward members checking up on you - as soon as you think you've shaken one another one will see your name on a list and pursue you - this could potentially go on for the rest of your life they will literally never leave you alone as
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yes - exactly what Ragnar said they want to have those conversations face to face so they can "Resolve Concerns" (it's one of the sales tactics they are trained to use) you are not going to hurt them - the fact is that almost all people that missionaries come into contact with drop off their radar at some point before baptism - they are just working extra hard on you because you a
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circumcision?
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"Now I fear that it's going to be even harder to do this now that they've directly involved the bishop in my life and I want to know what is the most polite but effective way to tell them in person that I don't want this. I already feel Terrible because one of the elders goes back to Utah in 3 weeks and doing this will end his mission on a sour note but I really don't want to get baptized.&q
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I have wrestled with many of the same things. I wish I had time to give you a full answer but I will just say that it is possible to find purpose in purposelessness - I owe that perspective to Alan Watts. For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmHCdBGj-5c
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pioneer worship I know that people commemorate other westward migrations (e.g., Oregon Trail) but what I find most odd about the Mormon angle is the celebrations taking place far away from Utah we had two companionships and one set of senior missionaries and just a handful of members in this one town and the sister missionary was distraught that our branch wasn't doing anything for July 24t
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"how could Joseph Smith have known (insert tenuous connection here)?" is the favorite tactic of the mopologists I want to present my counter: "how could Joseph Smith NOT have known (insert obvious connection here)?" these guys will jump on the slightest similarities and tout them as 'evidences' and yet there are some glaringly obvious connections that they just outright
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I know what you mean with your post but consider this: you can visit the places that JS used to build the story around http://www.mazeministry.com/mormonism/holley/holleymaps.htm I've always wondered what it must be like to be a TBM and live in one of these places for example, there's almost a million people living in Lehigh Valley, PA (The Land of Lehi-Nephi) and I'm sure a few of them
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your friend might like this video: "I've Converted To EVERY Religion (Just In Case)" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqJpZOljjG8&list=PLB205ED5D6CDE8AE1
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The Island
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one of the relevant passage from the mormonthink link is D&C 17 1-5 - she might read that
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you have just lived out one of my fantasies the facsimiles are such a great 'go to' topic when blindsided by missionaries (odd that your pair didn't have quads...) best part: the facsimiles aren't 'anti' material - they are right in their own scriptures to be stared at and pondered over during 'scripture study'
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http://mormonthink.com/witnessesweb.htm#actuallysee
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The Village
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"information to give the missionaries" and what would this personal information be? the addresses of people that make over X per year and live in a house valued at Y and have a net worth of at least Z? that list can already be bought (legally) and extremely cheaply (you might be shocked at how detailed a mailing list can be) besides, why even go to that much trouble when you c
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"How do these smart, beautiful, well-rounded women get these wimpy guys?" 2 things jump out at me about this I went to Ricks in the 90s and the male/female ratio was way out of balance - from what I hear most singles wards (whether attached to a college or not) have far more girls than guys that are marriage hungry - this gives those guys an advantage that they wouldn't have in re
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so who is the girl? his wife? or a girlfriend? or a girl he wishes was his girlfriend/wife?
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"just continue to bottle everything up" don't do that to yourself - if anything you could at least get into some online debates (news articles and youtube comments sections) with TBMs just to work it out of your system i know that if you do this it might feel like you are validating the standard TBM claim about not being able to leave it alone but... it was your life! you have a
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oh i totally remember you (in a good way) i was a somewhat needy board member and when i came out of that i realized that it was time for a new board identity
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" but we always know what the other is doing and always talk about everything" oh yeah, this drives me nuts with my TBM brother and his wife i talk to my brother quite a bit i also talk with my SIL quite a bit but i often get into the awkward situation of assuming that the one i am currently talking to knows what the other one already told me it's unreal
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you know if TSCC had any evidence at all they would trot it out for the world to see the best they have is "all those ancient ruins are actually nephite and lamanite but scholars today don't identify them as such" but in theory they do have the physical evidence that ties the whole story together: the sword of laban, the breastplate, the urim and thumim - hell, even the stone box
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"the atheist wars" oh yeah - i feel like i should get some kind of medal or something for having survived those
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Russia
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caedmon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mormons made their > own enemies. > > The tradition continues today profound thought for the day
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