well done! thanks. holytheghost Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, a current member of the LDS First Presidency, recently counselled members of the church that there is a difference between raw church growth (numbers on the books), and real growth (active practicing members). This distinction requires that members continue to ask q
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jamison Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And no, I never said I was here to help. I came > here because I thought it was an inaccurate > portrayal of a religious community. I must put my 2cents in. This isn't a religious community. It's a community trying to RECOVER from a religious community/organization through discussion and that discuss
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lol me too. Suddenly I wanted to know exactly what his new bathroom would look like. I re-did mine last summer and now it looks like the nicest room in the house.
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@ Vulcanrider, Why didn't more people pick up on this. We were given the revised version amalgamation and thought that was it. We had no reason to question those in Apostle or prophet positions as we believed and were taught that they were honest and upfront. We were kept busy with regular work jobs, plus a schwak of church callings, a schwak of kids with little time left over.
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this guy is so funny. He needs his own series, like the Mr. Deity series addressing new topics in his fun format. Luv it!
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xyz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > irreparable damage to the KKKult. They never > looked so bad. > > Their little M&M messengers of lies and deceit no > longer have a "we're gonna rule the World" kinna > gleam in their beady little eyes. > > There isn't going to be any safety cave of > anonymity for the KKKult
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I haven't read through the entire list, sorry if this is a repeat... just to fit into the tribal community and do/be like every other couple...or to have that right to have the same status as every other couple if desired.
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RPackham Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ex missionary Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Perhaps most interesting, it provides a list of > basic doctrines. > https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/guidebook/doctrina > l?lang=eng > > > > > > 1. Godhead > > 2. Plan of Salva
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citizen not logged in Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > However, if a member of the > First Presidency or Quorum of the Twelve Apostles > (of the Corporation of the President of the Church > of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints AKA The > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints™) > cares sufficiently to leave the ninety and nine in
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baura Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > However there is no evidence, other than the say-so of JS > and his croneys that Sarah Pratt, Martha > Brotherton, Nancy Rigdon, or William Law, ever > lied about any of it. Earlier today, before I even read your remark, I pondered on Steve's original story and thought about William Law. I remember
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schmendrick Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > There is also the fact that most non/casually > religious people I've met only really know three > things about Mormons: they're weird, the practice > polygamy, and they have Strong Family Values. I've met people who like the family values.... trouble is, the people don't realize that t
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They use the family-feeling connection to associate it with the church/Temple feelings. I wonder what the psychological term is for that?
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steve benson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- " . . . Nancy was tagged a 'poor miserable girl out of the very slough of prostitution." On the smearing of Mormon women's reputation by Smith and his inner-circle of male defenders and the insatiable sex drive that possessed/obsessed Smith, Van Wagoner notes: "Despite the drama of these events
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I went in 1981. This was during the disembowlment and decapitation oath and ritual period. with the ceremony acted out by amateur actors. You can imagine my surprise!! I thought, WHAT??? nobody told me this!! of course they couldn't tell me, it was all secret, but by that time it was too late, I'd signed on. I felt like stories I'd heard about making a deal with the devil...where the
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I just finished listening to your interview with Dehlin last night and was looking for the link on this forum to comment...happy to find this one now. It was a very moving 4 hr inteview as I stared out my window listening off and on in bits and pieces. You are an amazing person. Simply amazing. Tremendously classy in your responses and I wish to use your example to approach things prof
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sonoma Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > it just seems absurd that in the 21st century, you > can have a senate candidate that thinks that a > woman's body can prevent a pregnancy if she is > "legitimately" raped, and even more absurd that > people could think that a guy this WRONG on any > issue could be right, say, on fiscal issu
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It seems that my progress out of mormonism is tremendously layered and one layer was peeled off today as I had an epiphany thanks to watching one of his vids.... He said that mormons are vengeful and hateful. I thought *ALL* mormons are vengeful and hateful? Really? Then I thought that was perhaps a blanket statement as I did not consider myself vengeful or hateful while I was a mormon
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csuprovostudent Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was there. My impression was that the materials > used to construct the mall were all top shelf > products. They did not use anything that wasn't > of the highest quality. Clearly, the bid process > did not favor the lowest bidder, nor did the term > 'value engineering' ever get uttered
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Glad you made the comparison too. Also, almost every AlAnon family has an enabler. These are usually family members, but can often be random people who say that you must NOT denounce an abusive parent, because they are your parent and you must never cut ties with them under any circumstance. I've seen all kinds of enablers over the years. In many cases the lds group have enablers. Peopl
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((To preface, I was raised in a never-mo family and as a teenager my dad started to drink alcohol to the excess. He was unhappy in his marriage and was sexually abused as a young boy so I suppose it was an escape. I must say that I was one of those depressed converts looking for a better life and mormon missionaries told me "the gospel" was it.)) I joined Al Anon, for adult chi
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I forgot, Rosemary's Baby. For years I was afraid to buy antique jewellry, in an era when retro jewelery was in style. Also became afraid to have kids for fear I'd have Rosemary's baby. That movie was the best birth control right there.
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I still don't like to watch scary movies. I don't like to bring too much of that emotion into my life. But... I still like the old Fright Night from 1985. I watched it when I was very TBM. Wow, you were REALLY tbm if you didn't watch Fright Night. My husband, while both of us were extremely TBM, had me watch the movie, The Evil Dead, which was from 1982 if I remember correctly.
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CA girl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- You will have exactly the same sort of > problems everyone has - life is no more blessed or > protected as a Mormon. What you will have is more > time, more money and more freedom to be loved for > who you are and more ability to accept yourself > for who you are. For all my mormon life I thou
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simplyconfused Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sigh…. So… here I sit… all of these things > going through my mind… I have read posts and > stories and still I feel confused…. Not because > I don’t think that this is all wrong… but > because I feel GUILTY about feeling that this is > all wrong... > > Will I be p
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Raptor Jesus talk was amazing! I was sick on my mission and I identified with it. He presented great info with whit and humor. I've heard 3 talks and have not been disappointed whatsoever. You couldn't pay me enough money to speak and these speakers deliver interesting and helpful info. Love it!!
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I watched Grant Palmer's presentation. He did an exceptional job. I'm looking forward to watching it again on podcast. Content and delivery was outstanding. (at one point I got shivers from the truth he revealed and exposed.) I also watched the lady who followed him (can't recall her name). She did a great job as well. Mormons are used to the boring hypnotic drone and delivery at
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Inverso Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In exactly one hour I'll be in front of a group of > LGBT Latinos to deliver a presentation about two > (ex)gay Mormons -- Are you ex-gay mormons, or exmormon gays. I'm unsure as to your description.
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""I remember walking out of that meeting knowing that women held a clearly defined second-class position in this religion."" I was 19 when I knew it for what it was. It took another 11 years to untangle the mess of denial and excuses and realize it's not what I consider healthy or right from a *true* church. It's amazing when you really get it internally and then
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steve benson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > MoMitt's fugitives-from-justice, Mexico-in-hiding > polygamous ancestors would be so proud of his > performance. :) I want to know more about that.
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I agree with dogzilla. That was cold. The upside is that now you know that they don't like being around people who don't agree with their beliefs. They must have a very, very sheltered life.
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