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CrispingPin
When it comes to #3, remember: you’ll be with your family for all eternity. Temple assignments aren’t eternal (they just feel that way). Seriously, that made me sad. Your father couldn’t get out of one sealing assignment to welcome his son home? Sad, but all too familiar.
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Yesterday
CrispingPin
First off, so sorry about your wife. I hope the good memories help you through the tough moments. A couple of months ago marked 43 years since the end of my mission. My parents came to get me at the end of my mission. Parents were discouraged from coming to the mission field, and our mission policy was that if if our parents came, we could only spend a maximum of two days together. My parents
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Yesterday
CrispingPin
My mom, who was (at best) a marginal singer, loved to sing in the ward choir. She often used the "talents" that I was given, plus my temple covenants, to try to guilt me into joining the ward choir. I sang in my high school choir, but I never sang with any choir after that. I would hardly describe my voice as a God-given talent. Maybe if I was a better singer, my mom's guilt trip mi
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5 days ago
CrispingPin
There is a conscious effort by TSCC to de-emphasize some of the “unique” aspects of their religion, but I also think the high number of references to Joe in 2005 is due to the fact that it was the bicentennial of Smith’s birth. It was a year long praise to the man fest.
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6 days ago
CrispingPin
Your theory of classism reminded me of a ward division when I was 15 years old. Two big wards were divided into three wards. My family ended up in the new ward, which was much smaller than the other two wards. Our new ward was mostly upper-middle class and up, but it did have a working class (still suburban, but lower income) area. My dad was obviously a bit uncomfortable with the makeup of the n
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6 days ago
CrispingPin
The Buggles would be proud.
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7 days ago
CrispingPin
No she/it!
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8 days ago
CrispingPin
8 days ago
CrispingPin
I am so tired of seeing Brother Joseph’s name dragged through the mud. Remember he has done more, save Jesus only, to bring salvation to the souls of men!!!!! Sure he did many things throughout his life that might appear to the unenlightened to be nothing more than scams. And sure, he used the same peep stone that he used to try to defraud people in treasure seeking expeditions to later tran
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8 days ago
CrispingPin
Back in the 1980s, I went to a planetarium show that explored different astrological theories about the Star of Bethlehem. The narrator said that many scholars believed that Jesus was born in the springtime. I thought “more proof that the church is true.” Over the years, I have read or heard various biblical experts say that Jesus was likely born in spring. I took my testimony boosts where
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9 days ago
CrispingPin
Sometimes it takes a lot of brain power to do the mental gymnastics and come up with seemingly plausible explanations for different questions. People on the other end of the scale don’t ask difficult questions. I suppose I’m in the middle. I ask questions, but eventually trying to find a way to make it work was too much effort.
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10 days ago
CrispingPin
In addition to Norway, Belgium and Austria are on the list. Are the brethren really that clueless when it comes to Western Europe?
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10 days ago
CrispingPin
I, for one, don’t need a reason or a conflict to not watch conference.
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10 days ago
CrispingPin
Why would anyone want to join, or stay in, such a high demand religion, if they can get the same message from virtually any Christian denomination?
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10 days ago
CrispingPin
2,000 more years of Christianity.
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11 days ago
CrispingPin
It’s due to covid, but for what it’s worth, convert baptisms were roughly half of 2019’s number.
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11 days ago
CrispingPin
I think the PoGP is doctrinally much worse than the BoM, but few members give a rat’s posterior about the PoGP. It will take some delicate maneuvering for TSCC to steer clear from the BoM. If they move too quickly, they’ll alienate the stalwart older members who are the primary source of tithing. Plus, you have to assume that hey noticed what happened to the Community of Christ. I thin
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11 days ago
CrispingPin
I was social distancing long before it was cool.
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11 days ago
CrispingPin
The same way I’d define any other freedom: do or say whatever you want, but don’t use your “freedom” to limit mine. A couple of examples: you can believe that any day of the week, month, or year is a holy day or the sabbath, but your “freedom” doesn’t give to the right to enact laws that prevent people from doing what they choose to do that day (like preventing liquor sales on S
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12 days ago
CrispingPin
“our greatest president of all time is banned from Twitter” Seriously? Lincoln has been banned from Twitter?
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13 days ago
CrispingPin
They don’t have Nike’s authorization or approval, but I wonder if they’re personally endorsed by Satan. Unlike most other celebrities, the Prince of Darkness rarely turns to litigation when companies use his likeness in promotional materials.
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14 days ago
CrispingPin
You'll get a letter telling you that it is a "local ecclesiastical matter," but it's not. That letter is legal proof that you're no longer a member. You're officially out! Your bishop and/or Stake President may try to delay processing the paperwork, but that's just busywork on their end. You are no longer a member, and they have absolutely no say so in the matter.
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15 days ago
CrispingPin
Small steps are still steps in the right direction.
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15 days ago
CrispingPin
Do you remember those sleepless nights worrying about smallpox? How about the hours of praying and pleading with God that your family wouldn’t be devastated by polio? Of course not, and the reason you didn’t have those worries is because of vaccines.
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15 days ago
CrispingPin
I certainly don’t follow the CoJSoL-dS these days, but the most obvious change is that they’re all ex-Mormons now. Apparently, Jesus is offended by the word “Mormon.” The High Priest group and the Elders’ Quorum is now one big happy group (that frees up one leader, two councilors, one secretary, and one instructor to serve in other callings). No more home/visiting teaching, though
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15 days ago
CrispingPin
Just to reiterate, from my personal experience, the easiest and quickest way to officially get out is to email msr-confrec@ldschurch.org and just say “I resign my membership.” No notary, no lawyer, not even any postage, and it only took 11 days from clicking “send” to getting the second letter from Salt Lake confirming that I was no longer a member.
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15 days ago
CrispingPin
The first lines of “Families Can Be Together Forever”: “I have a family here on earth. They are so good to me.” Fortunately, that was true for me. My parents were far from perfect, but I always knew that they loved me, and I always knew I was important to them. I was never subjected to physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual abuse. As I have gotten to know people throughout my life, I r
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16 days ago
CrispingPin
“Would the mormon church lie?” Birds gotta fly. Fish gotta swim.
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16 days ago
CrispingPin
As it is frequently pointed out here, “name removal” is mormonspeak. It’s resigning your membership in the church. And it’s also important that you remember that it’s not a request, it’s not an application, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has no say in the matter.
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