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Today
CrispingPin
In a way, it almost seems wrong to say “happy” Memorial Day. Remembering those who died for us shouldn’t be happy. On the other hand, those who fought for free countries would probably want us to enjoy what they defended. So, I’ll remember the sacrifices, and also be happy today.
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Yesterday
CrispingPin
I not only remember, but personally experienced the following (many, many times): Pay lay ale Five points of fellowship Penalty oaths Washing and anointing under "shields"
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2 days ago
CrispingPin
If I recall correctly, the NBA suspended their season a couple of days before TSCC suspended Sunday meetings. The “prophets, seers, and revelators” are only slightly less inspired than the National Basketball Association.
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3 days ago
CrispingPin
Just for argument sake, let’s say the devil can’t get in church. If you have a bunch of people congregating, it’s not the devil you need to worry about.
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3 days ago
CrispingPin
For me, it was 100% nurture. Both sides of my family had been in the cult for many generations.
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3 days ago
CrispingPin
I don't think they ever will. I think they have already started to slowly move away from claiming that it's an actual, historical document. Mormons will still testify that "I know the Book of Mormon is true," but the "spiritual" truth will be emphasized. Members will start to say things like "even if not all of the events recorded in the BoM are 100% accurate, I know t
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4 days ago
CrispingPin
It’s so needlessly wordy. Many chapters have a “made it up as they were writing it” feel to it. It’s light on doctrine (and has almost no unique doctrine), but it’s heavy on wars, preparation for war, war strategies, weapons used in war...did I mention wars?
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5 days ago
CrispingPin
I stand corrected. Well, actually I’m sitting down.
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5 days ago
CrispingPin
The ward buildings haven’t been clean since they started using “volunteer” custodians.
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5 days ago
CrispingPin
The idea of infinite punishment or reward for finite actions (or inaction) is the main reason I gave up on religion.
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7 days ago
CrispingPin
https://youtu.be/e3I6t3VodO4
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7 days ago
CrispingPin
Prior to 2007: The Lamanites are the principal ancestors of the American Indians. Now: Lamanites? Who said anything about Lamanites?
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7 days ago
CrispingPin
Those of us who have had the misfortune of reading The Book of Mormon know what happened to the Nephites: they were slaughtered by those who were cursed with a skin of blackness, but what happened to the Lamanites? They were going strong for many centuries, but they seem to have vanished in the past 20 years or so. President Wilford Woodruff said, “Zion is bound to rise and flourish. The La
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9 days ago
CrispingPin
Panic is never the answer, but neither is failing to take an extremely serious situation seriously.
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10 days ago
CrispingPin
“No amount of belief makes something a fact.” -James Randi
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11 days ago
CrispingPin
I remember those gag-worthy books. The only good thing about them was the fact that they had “Mormons” in the title. That was a victory for Satan.
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11 days ago
CrispingPin
“I've thrown you a bone there.” :)
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11 days ago
CrispingPin
And why did god need a rib to create Adam’s help meet? Isn’t he all powerful? Did he need a collection of ribs to create all of the animals?
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13 days ago
CrispingPin
An Insider's View of Mormon Origins by Grant Palmer.
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14 days ago
CrispingPin
Do they have enough people willing (and worthy) to be temple workers that they can turn anyone down?
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14 days ago
CrispingPin
No one has ever asked me to pray to “prove” Bigfoot’s existence.
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16 days ago
CrispingPin
Not to defend Mormons, but….honesty they’re as “Christian” as just about any other denomination that claims to worship Jesus. Mormons cherry-pick passages from the Bible that seem to support their theology, but so does pretty much every Christian church. It can be argued that the Bible contains very little (if any) of Jesus’ teachings. The only books in the Bible that contain Jesus
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17 days ago
CrispingPin
Glen Beck said it. That’s all the evidence I need. ;)
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18 days ago
CrispingPin
The leadership of god’s one true church is going to be facing some serious questions in the coming months, including: When should weekly meetings resume? Will handshakes and other physical contact be discouraged? Will “ministers” still be required to visit homes? How will the ordinance of the sacrament be handled (with masks and gloves?) When will temples be reopened? Will th
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18 days ago
CrispingPin
I know this is a stupid question, but I’m going to ask it. Will the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints go back to using professional cleaning services, or will they demand that the members disinfect (as well as clean) the chapels?
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18 days ago
CrispingPin
All churches being false comes from the "official" version of Joseph Smith's first vision (Joseph Smith History in the Pearl of Great Price). When Joe asked Jesus what church to join, Jesus said that all churches were corrupt, and an abomination in his sight. In 1949, the First Presidency issued an official statement that reaffirmed that the denial of temple and the priesthood to b
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18 days ago
CrispingPin
The 6000 years comes from Doctrine and Covenants section 77:5-7. Section 77 is Joe's explanation of the book of Revelation. He said that the earth has a temporal existence of 6000 years. The girl that always had an extra pair on unused shoes was probably the nuttiest member of a fairly nutty family. Her family dynamic was unique, to say the least. Her father was frequently away on "busin
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18 days ago
CrispingPin
If you were to show this list to a young Mormon today, they'd think you made most of it up. If you showed it to an older Mormon, they'd wiggle out of it by saying that these things were never "official" doctrine. People have said that trying to determine official Mormon doctrine is like trying to nail Jello to a tree, but some things can't be denied. Some things on your list are scr
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20 days ago
CrispingPin
I sometimes wonder if macaRomney really intends to have all of his posts taken seriously, or if he occasionally tries to subtlety punk us. Using Glen Beck as a source? Seriously?
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21 days ago
CrispingPin
Yeah, most men in their 30s normally wouldn’t marry a girl several months shy of her fifteenth birthday.
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